Talk:Louis Pasteur

Suggested edit to the first line

The first line of the article is misleading. It says that Pasteur is "renowned for his discoveries of the principles of vaccination, microbial fermentation and pasteurization". This makes it sound as though he was the inventor of vaccination, which he is not. He made important contributions and introduced important innovations in connection with vaccines, but the basic principles of vaccination were established by Edward Jenner, who coined the term "vaccine." Hypoplectrus (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2022

In Controversies section, sub-heading Anthrax vaccine:

Pasteur then gave a misleading account of the preparation of the anthrax vaccine used in the experiment. He claimed that he made "live vaccine", but used potassium dichromate[16] to kill the vaccine, a method similar to Toussaint's.

"but used potassium dichromate[16] to kill the vaccine" should be changed to "but used potassium dichromate[16] to kill the virus".

Reasoning: From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Joseph_Henri_Toussaint vaccines can be attenuated but vaccines cannot be killed. Excerpt from linked material: "At Pouilly-le-Fort, Pasteur used a vaccine attenuated by potassium dichromate, employing a process similar to Toussaint's, who had published a means of attenuation by another antiseptic, carbolic acid." 108.170.154.240 (talk) 01:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done with edits. After further review, I found and added this source to the page to support the fact that Pasteur used Toussaint's inactivation method to kill the anthrax spores. Thanks, Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:19, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2022

I suggest making changes to the following lines in the first section summarizing Pasteur's life:

Old sentence:

Although Pasteur made groundbreaking experiments, his reputation became associated with various controversies. Historical reassessment of his notebook revealed that he practiced deception to overcome his rivals.[16][17]

New Suggested sentence:

Criticisms of questionable ethics accompany Pasteur's tests of rabies vaccine, and historical reassessment of his notebook suggests that Pasteur used a method for anthrax vaccine preparation by Jean Joseph Henri Toussaint without giving proper credit.[16][17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Joseph_Henri_Toussaint

Also I suggest updating doi link for REF [17]. Working doi link is provided below: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.259.5098.1117.b

I also suggest another link with a publicly available abstract: https://read.qxmd.com/read/20527335/-henry-toussaint-and-louis-pasteur-rivalry-over-a-vaccine

Another possibility is simply drop the two sentences - the long section on controversies could be sufficient. 173.73.123.209 (talk) 00:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Cool guy (talk • contribs) • he/they 02:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2023

My note: It's misleading to say that Louis Pasteur is known for "cholera vaccine" when his role was failing to create a cholera vaccine for chickens. Someone else later developed the cholera vaccine for humans. Pasteur was also involved with rabies vaccine development. I think it would be better to just keep it simple and say he's known for vaccine development.

Suggested "known for" section: Metasci (talk) 18:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lemonaka (talk) 22:39, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Replace "cholera vaccine" in the "known for" section with "rabies vaccine" --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine

Also there is a link to a corporate content marketing piece from PassportHealth (footnote 3) that doesn't seem super relevant or authoritative and should be removed.

Justification: Pasteur only developed a cholera vaccine for chickens and it was not effective. On the other hand, he had a much more direct role in development of the rabies vaccine. Consider this source:

"Although Pasteur ( 19 ) in 1880 demonstrated immunity in fowls inoculated with attenuated cultures of P. multocida, workers since that time have had irregular results with various vaccines and bacterins. Generally, no protection was provided in the vaccinated fowls"-Dorsey and Harshfield (1959) Metasci (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2023

Change "He was dyslexic and dysgraphic" to "He was suspected of being dyslexic and having dysgraphia" and move this line to the 'Personal Life' section. Beingofhuman (talk) 13:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Beingofhuman, 3 sources are present in the relevant sentence supporting his dyslexia and dysgraphia. While I can't review the 2 books, the web source says explicitly he had both disorders. I think, from an editorial standpoint, it makes sense to keep it where it is as both disorders are of significant relevance to his education and early life.

You are also now autoconfirmed, so moving forward you may simply edit semi-protected pages directly without needing to make an edit request. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 00:35, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Louis, Pasteur

What did he do? 188.28.38.115 (talk) 19:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)