Talk:Baron Samedi

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"He has a white" what? I'd edit it, but I don't know what noun is intended. "Face"?

Oops, thanks. Fixed. Deborah-jl 12:55, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

popular culture sightings[edit]

Is the popular culture sightings section really necessary? Baron Samedi is a god; it seems rather ridiculous to have detailed information about his appearance as a random villain in a video game, not to mention details about how he needs to be killed as a character in the videogame. I'd like to remove this section, which really only reflects that the page was created by somebody interested in the game. Deborah-jl 15:26, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Not just a game, but an Ian Fleming novel and film. Nevertheless, I moved it to Baron Samedi (James Bond). I don't know how long it'll stay there though. At some point I'd like to merge some of these "henchmen" together. At some point.. K1Bond007 17:08, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

There's two many crap sightings or whatever in comparison to the article. Considering on my monitor at the resolution I'm at, the article itself is barely half a page, but there's three pages of trivial crap. While it's interesting that his image is being used in other forms of media, I say all this should be moved to something like Baron Samedi in Popular Culture, Loa in Popular Culture or even Voodoo in Popular Culture.69.64.10.249 13:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the entire section. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of random irrelevant trivia. - ∅ (∅), 15:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deborah-jl, lwas are not gods, they are spirits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.227.38.85 (talk) 04:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Facilier from the Frog Princess, seemes to be inspired by Baron Samedi, given his attire and connection with the dark side of voodoo. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 01:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

opening scene of wes cravens film serpent and the rainbow, main antagonists assistant, a lumbering, mean spirited man brandishing fire and a pistol in the faces of Haitian civilians, is depicted painted as a skeleton wearing a top hat. scene coincides with a death of a character in the film. should be added because of the films attention to political climate, as well as its interesting interpretation of the zombie mythos and its origin. - cite film. https://www.google.com/search?q=serpent+and+the+rainbow&client=firefox-a&hs=SZl&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MrEnU52qOurk0gGyxICoDg&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg&biw=1280&bih=668#channel=sb&q=serpent+and+the+rainbow+opening+scene&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=ZQvStGf9ntdPlM%253A%3BoA2Na7mP5G5xhM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F1.bp.blogspot.com%252F-g9g6p_-wvt8%252FUm8irsMEyRI%252FAAAAAAAAE4w%252FJ8bQi-0zcSo%252Fs1600%252FThe-Serpent-and-the-Rainbow-Carnival.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fprettysinister.blogspot.com%252F2013_10_01_archive.html%3B400%3B225

Baron Cimetié[edit]

Baron's other name is Baron Cimetié which is a ebonical-type derivation of cimetière, "cemetary". Perhaps the name Samedi (Saturday) is a linguistic side-step from Cimetié (cemetary).

"Ebonical?" How about Haitian Creole (Kreyol?) which is a legitimate language? (It is usually spelled Cimitye or Simitye in the official style).

Relation to other Barons[edit]

What is Baron Samedi's relation to Baron Le Croix and the other Barons within voodoo? I'm curious because I have a book of mythologies (Phillip Wilkinson's Myths & Legends: and Illustrated Guide to their Origins and Meanings, to be exact) that says that Baron Le Croix is just an alias for Baron Samedi, but this article says they are seperate entities. 75.157.110.77 (talk) 01:58, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

reference style is off[edit]

It's good that there are references, but there should be notation as to what facts are from what source

tobacco[edit]

Baron Samedi has predilection for tobacco and rum. A certain sign of Baron Samedi's possesion is that he answer for tobacco and rum when He takes the body. I've seen documental videos and hell, they're really terryfing. Must say too that a place to invoquee this loa must be near cementeries. Had change : put not love but sex (...) and that of tobacco.

The Actor[edit]

I noticed in the part where it mentions Baron Samedi in th Nightmare/Atmosfear series it says that the name of the actor has never been revealed. It is Wenanty Nosul who also played The Gatekeeper. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 222.152.31.227 (talk) 03:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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Image[edit]

I can't make heads or tails of the image. Are there really no better free images of the figure than this? jSarek (talk) 20:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I think this is the first time I've ever seen a Wikipedia article that ends with an exclamation point! I won't remove it for fear of offending the Baron! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.62.47 (talk) 21:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

unSourced?[edit]

Voodoo deities, or loas, are among the most feared divine beings in the world. Ka'Jong would like to see this sourced or removed. It would appear to Ka'Jong that it would be impossible to source and should removed. Ka'Jong (Ka'Talk) , 26 May 2009.

"Like Maman Brigitte, Baron Samedi is thought to have been adopted into the Vodou religion from the Celtic pagan religious beliefs held by some of the Irish indentured servants who worked alongside the African slaves in the sugar plantations of the Caribbean. 'Samedi' means 'Saturday' in French, though there are alternate etymologies offered, such as Samhain, the Irish Gaelic name for November Eve or Halloween which is also a name given to a deity in Irish mythology who appears as a brother to Cian and Goibniu in some versions of the legend of Lugh's conception." - has been removed and should remain so until suitable references are provided to support this proposition. Linking Samhain to Samedi is poor etymological evidence - reputable references required. No cited academic evidence that Irish indentured labour held celtic pagan beliefs that informed Vodou pantheon. Jonathan carfax (talk) 11:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I was triggered by "brainless" description of zombies[edit]

I think this sentence needs a rewrite in three parts,

"He also ensures that all corpses rot in the ground to stop any soul from being brought back as a brainless zombie."

Remove "brainless", Zombies have no will of their own, at least from what the link(2.) says
The link to Zombies should redirect to Zombie#Folk_beliefs or Zombie#Haitian_trad== ition
Edit "any soul" to "anyone", etc. since the concept of a Zombie and a Soul Zombie are different and the topic of Soul_dualism isn't presented here for explanation.

Wcichello (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relevancy of Information About Cloak and Dagger[edit]

I feel like it probably isn't necessary to go so in-depth about the particulars of his appearance in Cloak and Dagger. I'm hesitant to make the change myself but the longest paragraph in the entire article shouldn't be extraneous details about a Marvel show. ProbablyGasha (talk) 04:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possible reference?[edit]

There's a character in a game called Fran Bow named Itward who seems to be based off of baron samedii. I don't know if I should add that or not? 166.70.20.45 (talk) 00:40, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]