Talk:Saba
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Wiktionary?
Shouldn't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABA be linked from somewhere here? 198.30.80.11 (talk) 15:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress[edit]
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Saba which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 16:17, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Talk:Saba_(island)#Requested_move_8_August_2022. Vpab15 (talk) 09:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Post-move[edit]
It's been a while, and now https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Saba for February '23 says 4.5k incoming views of which 1.28k go to the island (~28.5%). --Joy (talk) 08:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- It also says the island gets 58.78% of outgoing clicks, more than 5 times as many as the next entry on the list, Sabaeans, at 10.59%. Station1 (talk) 16:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yep, we've always known it is the topic that would attract the most interest. I wonder if anyone thinks that we're losing some readers looking for the island? On another note, I wonder if we should sort those historical places together with modern-day ones; IOW whether placement atop section #2 is better than putting it in line #2 of the first section. --Joy (talk) 18:17, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comparing pre-move pageviews to post-move views, it looks like the island may have lost about 123 daily readers. Of course, pre-move some of those readers might have been looking for something else and hitting the island's hatnote, but no more than about 25 per day. At the same time, the dab page's views are now over 7 times what they were pre-move, and either about 29% or 59% (depending which of the above data we choose to use) of that increase wants the island. So bottom line is we might have lost some readers and slightly inconvenienced some more, but we can't definitively quantify it due to the time periods chosen possibly being unrepresentative or other unknown factors that could have influenced pageviews. Station1 (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- I tried to spread that graph to get a longer term trend, like this or like this and it looks like we needed to wait a few months after the September move for a new pattern to emerge, presumably all the various search engine patterns needed to readjust. After November, the island traffic is generally comparable to earlier years. Compared to last year the December and January numbers were better while February was worse, but none of it seems to go beyond the deviation from many years before. Since it's only been a few months since that pattern change in turn, let's see if this actually holds throughout the year before trying to draw further conclusions. --Joy (talk) 18:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comparing pre-move pageviews to post-move views, it looks like the island may have lost about 123 daily readers. Of course, pre-move some of those readers might have been looking for something else and hitting the island's hatnote, but no more than about 25 per day. At the same time, the dab page's views are now over 7 times what they were pre-move, and either about 29% or 59% (depending which of the above data we choose to use) of that increase wants the island. So bottom line is we might have lost some readers and slightly inconvenienced some more, but we can't definitively quantify it due to the time periods chosen possibly being unrepresentative or other unknown factors that could have influenced pageviews. Station1 (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yep, we've always known it is the topic that would attract the most interest. I wonder if anyone thinks that we're losing some readers looking for the island? On another note, I wonder if we should sort those historical places together with modern-day ones; IOW whether placement atop section #2 is better than putting it in line #2 of the first section. --Joy (talk) 18:17, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
- In April '23, it was 3.6k incoming, and outgoing 929 island (~26%), 258 rapper, 163 ancient kingdom, etc, up to 14 outgoing destinations at 10+ recorded clickstreams. Island's outgoing percentage for March was ~57% and ~53.5% in April. --Joy (talk) 18:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- In May '23, it was 3.6k incoming, outgoing 853 island (~24%), 191 rapper, 180 ancient kingdom, etc, up to 14 destinations with 10+ clickstreams. Island's outgoing percentage for May was slightly under 53.5%. --Joy (talk) 17:48, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- In June '23, it was 3.4k incoming, outgoing 798 island (~23.5%), 245 rapper, 174 ancient kingdom, etc, up to 13 destinations with 10+ clickstreams. Island's outgoing percentage for June was ~52%. I've also since discussed the possible reasons why the rapper gets so much traffic in Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation/Archive 55#effects of WP:NAMELIST on navigation outcomes for anthroponymy entries. --Joy (talk) 07:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- In February '24, 2.1k incoming, outgoing 1.1k total, to island 485 (~23.1% / ~44.9%), singer 141, ancient kingdom 130, rapper 128, name list 57, etc up to 11 identifiable destinations. --Joy (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)