Talk:Joanna Southcott

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Joanna Southcott (1750 - October 29, 1814), English religious fanatic, was horn at Gittisham in Devonshire.

Did the writer mean "born" or am I just ignorant of this usage of the word horn?

Very clever. The writer made a typo. It happens.

If Southcott had been more successful, we would not be permitted to use the word "fanatic" (try the link!), for lack of "NPOV." Wetman

We would not be permitted? Just who would stop us? In any event, I see that the lead in the main article now meets your quite reasonable objection.

I deleted the reference to "fanatic" in the lead. It is not NPOV and serves no purpose other than to remind us not to simply dump, uncritically, copyright-free material from the 1911 Brittanica into Wikipedia. Especially in articles about religion, it is good to remember that those 1911 EB people were good, solid members of the Church of England.User:Jeffmatt

The claim that they were "Church of England" is interesting considering that by 1911 it is an American publication.

Heh. 2004?[edit]

Quote: "Southcott prophecied that the Day of Judgement would come in the year 2004, and her followers state that if the contents of the box have not been studied beforehand, the world will have to meet it unprepared."

This seems a bit dated, considering that the year C.E. / A.D. is now nearly 2006. Probably at least needs to be rewritten in the past tense.

P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 00:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree[edit]

How about, "Southcott prophecied that the Day of Judgement would come in the year 2004, and her followers stated that if the contents of the box had not been studied beforehand, the world would have to meet it unprepared.."

I'm afraid to change it, though. What happens if the world comes right after I do that? I'd feel guilty. Jeffmatt

A Tale Of Two Boxes... Which Needs To Be Detailed[edit]

The article contains the following statement: The efforts of the Society have so far been unsuccessful; Church of England officials, including the Rt. Rev. David Farmbrough, then (Bishop of Bedford) have commented that for them to take part in the opening would be to unnecessarily arouse public interest in the affair. This statement if true requires that the box which was opened in 1927 was not the real box and that the entire opening was a fraud. This would implicate the Bishop present at the 1927 opening in the fraud. This implication of one bishop by another would be a highly unusual event: it is not common that an official in an organization implicates another official in any kind of malfeasance. Could this actually have happened? The statement is unsourced. Hi There 06:27, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that Bishop Farmbrough's statement was intended to imply any fraud or malfeasance by the Bishop of Grantham who attended the 1927 opening. Rather, the Bishop of Grantham might simply have been in attendance at a fraud which someone else had perpetrated, and according to the press at the time he had attended only out of curiosity. Given that Southcott's views were not mainstream to the Church of England in her time, nor in our time, the desire of the church officials not to participate in the opening of another box purported to be Southcott's box is understandable. By cooperating with Southcott's supporters, the bishops would bring public interest to her views and appear to endorse those views. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Birth[edit]

Forgive me, I'm a newbie.

Joanna Southcott was not born in Gittisham, but at Taleford Farm near Ottery St Mary. The family moved to Gittisham when she was 4 years old.

s: Joanna Southcott, The Woman Clothed with the Sun - Frances Brown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ovoid (talk • contribs) 08:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"she began to seal the 144,000 elect"?[edit]

she began to seal the 144,000 elect

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. 212.9.31.12 (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Selling paper "seals" to people which would guarantee them eternal life. I've rewritten and clarified the sentence from a source. Thanks for raising the problem. --McGeddon (talk) 14:43, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Price[edit]

More information is needed on Harry Price and his claim to have opened the box. I will see what I can do. HealthyGirl (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Replica Box[edit]

I'm unconvinced that the box pictured in the article is the 'real' box. From what I've gathered, the box presented in the Panacea Museum is a replica while the real box remains hidden with trustees. While pictures of the actual box appear to exist, the one seen in the article taken in 2018 appears to be the one one display in the museum.

https://londonist.com/2016/10/in-search-of-joanna-southcott-s-box 92.15.192.165 (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]