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Title capitalization[edit]

(As per previous discussions in User talk:FeldmarschallGneisenau#About title case and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Edit warring over formatting)

@FeldmarschallGneisenau: the two allowed standards by MOS are to either put an article and use the word "prime minister" as a generic noun, or use to use the word without an article and capitalize it as a proper noun. Please read MOS:JOB and make the changes accordingly.

If you really want the format to be "the prime minister," then I'm fine with that (better that than unfruitful arguing), but let's be consistent with MOS. We can also bring the former format back (using it as a proper noun in the lede), which would be more consistent with the sentence following it. It's after all the format used for most former Polish prime ministers. Max19582 (talk) 14:59, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I see that in the Olaf Scholz article he is referred to as the chancellor and that he earlier served as Vice Chancellor. But these are two different positions. In this case it's a repetition of the same title. Does it need capitalization? FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 15:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FeldmarschallGneisenau: If we want "Prime Minister" to serve as a title, we need to capitalize it. Otherwise, if we want to use it as a generic noun, we write it in lowercase with an article before it.

As of now, the first sentence uses it as a generic noun, while the latter uses it as a proper one. Max19582 (talk) 15:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what I meant. The second time "prime minister" is uttered, it's a redundancy. So I don't think it has to be capitalized since it's already mentioned earlier. FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 03:50, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FeldmarschallGneisenau: Whether it's mentioned earlier or not doesn't change its capitalization rules. It's used as a title there so it should be capitalized.

If we want to keep capitalization consistent between the two sentences, we can undo the changes from the first sentence (served as the prime minister of Poland since 2023 -> served as Prime Minister of Poland since 2023); that would also be allowed per MOS:JOB. Max19582 (talk) 21:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You provided a real good suggestion, although I twisted it a bit. I think the lede looks perfect now, as it should. Formally perfect, most of all FeldmarschallGneisenau (talk) 09:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]