Talk:List of storms in the 1994 Atlantic hurricane season

Retirement of Gordon[edit]

Just a comment, but I find it very odd that Gordon wasn't retired. --Golbez 15:10, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Golbez, I noticed the same thing. I read that article that the WMO put out describing the reasons why they didn't retire it. When I finished, I was steaming with rage. They said that because Haiti's warning system stunk that it negated the thousands of deaths that occured there. I found this to be a severe disrespect to those lost. I still get upset whenever I think about it. You should have seen me the day I read the article. I was absolutly livid. It's disgusting to think that they could completly disregard 1145 men, women and children who lived in a poor, poverty-ridden country and were just washed away. They expected this country to have all this high-tech warning gear that costs a fortune. OOOh, how I want to beat those senile desk-rats. No respect. I could rant on for days about this but I'll spare you the berating.

-E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast (Squawk Box)

Agreed. Even if the death toll was moderately high (like 100), I'd see some logic in not retiring it since it could be mistaken for a non-tropical rainstorm (which often kill dozens, occasionally hundreds, in Haiti - such as in May 2004). But 1,145? No excuse. Damage was probably in the billions as well if a calculation can be made...Not that I wish harm on anyone, but if there is a name I want in the dustbin after 2006, it is Gordon. Just find somewhere that can be done without any loss of life. CrazyC83 04:24, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's kind of hard to do, Crazy C. It's got to kill somebody if it does anything to be retired. Every retired storm has killed a bunch of people, that's just a fact. It needs to be retired comemorativly, like Carol and Edna from 1954. The WMO can redeem themselves that way.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not every storm. Elena only killed one, indirectly. I, too, share equal hatred towards the particular members of the WMO who decided not to retire Gordon. Another reason to retire it is for sheer weirdness. Gordon, IMO, (and I'm sure in a lot of other peoples opinions) took one of the freakiest paths in history. I fear Gordon will be another harsh storm this year. Maybe even a cat 5. I also fear it will strike Florida. →Cyclone1→ 03:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was wrong. →Cyclone1→ 20:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subtropical storm[edit]

Is there any data to support that statement? I've never heard of that storm. It is not listed in UNISYS or the best track. If acceptible data can't be found, I'm removing the statement.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 22:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the best I could find: http://www.intellicast.com/Almanac/Northeast/December/content.shtml and http://marine.rutgers.edu/cool/weather/historic.html.

I also found this from USA Today's page on the Fujiwhara effect: "One final example shows how the storms don't necessarily have to be tropical. Just before Christmas, 1994, a large coastal storm formed off Florida's east coast. The storm seemed to become tropical, developing an eye, almost like a late season hurricane. As the storm moved northward along the Eastern Seaboard a very large upper-level storm formed in its wake over Florida. This upper level storm was huge with a wide circulation spreading northward. It seemed to reach out and grab the first storm only to slingshot it on a northwestward path into New England.

"When this first storm came ashore nearly over New York City early on Christmas Eve it blew down trees all over Southern New England with winds clocked as high as 99 mph in Westport Harbor, Mass. The storm cut power to 130,000 in Connecticut as it dumped nearly 5 inches of rain on the area."

Here's an image of the storm. I have a feeling it will be upgraded in post-analysis. Hurricanehink 21:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then wouldn't you think the same about the Blizzard of 2006? Icelandic Hurricane 01:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, good point. It could be the same, then. Does anyone know if the Christmas storm caused warmer temperatures or tropical moisture? Well, we'll find out in a few years when the Hurdat Re-analysis gets there. Hurricanehink 01:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I moved mention of the nor'easter into the "other storms" section, and removed speculation about re-analysis. — jdorje (talk) 01:56, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images for Each Storm[edit]

I am trying to get an image for each storm, like 2005. I have started uploading ones that aren't on Wikipedia yet, and they are listed below. If you find a better image, feel free to replace it.

Tropical Storm Alberto- I know there is an image of Alberto already, but I personally like this one better than one in article
Tropical Storm Beryl
Hurricane Chris
Tropical Storm Debby
Tropical Storm Ernesto
Hurricane Florence

I didn't include the depressions, so this means every storm has their own image. Now that they're all here, what should we do with them? Hurricanehink 02:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I uploaded the tracks for all the named storms. Jdorje 21:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

button bar[edit]

If you really must add the button bar, you need to put it in a template {{1994 Atlantic hurricane season buttons}}. Jdorje 03:34, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subtropical storms?[edit]

The "subtropical storm" described in the article (from the HPC) is also mentioned in Jack Beven's summary. A couple of excerpts from them: "This system seems to have been a hybrid low with features of both tropical cyclones and frontal lows." and "Based on the available data, the peak intensity of this system is estimated at 45-50 kt."--Nilfanion (talk) 20:44, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And in addition the nor'easter is also described and closes with "The National Hurricane Center is currently evaluating this storm to see if it should be included in the 1994 list of tropical and subtropical cyclones."--Nilfanion (talk) 20:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oddly enough, they're still evaluating it. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline[edit]

I'm working on the timeline now, should be up later today. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 20:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the timeline will be delayed for a while, my computer crashed before I finished it so I lost all the data. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:26, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge List of storms in the 1994 Atlantic hurricane season[edit]

Ditto with what happened in 2002, 2006, and 2009. The season and this article are both redundant, covering the same info with only different formats. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:06, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, go ahead and merge. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 14:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was recently putting in some significant edits on this article. That was because there were several MoS errors and I didn't want you to repeat what you did with the 2002 AHS. I am talking about when you "jeopardized the FA status of the 2002 Atlantic hurricane season article". Anyway, I support the merge, because this is probably be my last choice (out of all that were created) to create a separate list article for the season.--12george1 (talk) 14:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry :( But thanks for doing those edits. They'll be clutch when this is merged. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:02, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I am still considering creating the main and separate list article for the 1995 AHS. Do you still agree with me doing that or should I just forget about it?--12george1 (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I don't think both formats should be used for any season. There is just too much redundancy. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So would anyone like to do this? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're the merge guy, you do it, lol. It was agreed that this format should not be around anymore several years ago. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 16:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - this format has since been disappreciated. Unnecessary separate list of storms for a very small selection of storms creates redundancy between the main and list articles. They're the same, but just in different formats. Merge. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 16:24, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is now merged. There is now a split history for the article though, which I have noted on the talk page for 1994 Atlantic hurricane season. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]