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Chicken[edit]

The paragraph on General Tso's Chicken is completely redundant with the article on General Tso's Chicken that is linked at the bottom, so I removed that section of text. — RJH 21:15, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This reference seems of interest to many readers, so I have supplied this text:

General Tso's chicken was introduced in New York in the 1970s, and has only a tenuous connection with the historical figure, if any. ^[1]

For some reason, the section has been repeatedly blanked (sometimes in good faith), changed to nonesense, or at best given unreferenced assertions. The most recent asserted that General Tso was associated with ordering by numbers in Chinese restaurants. The reference, however, contains no mention of General Tso, "his" chicken, or ordering by numbers. ch (talk)

I reverted the really quite amusing assertions that the University of Chicago Oriental Institute translated scrolls! Are you sure that they weren't found in a tomb? Glad to see that somebody has a sense of humor. ch (talk) 20:59, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Coe, Andrew. Chop Suey: A Cultural History of Chinese Food in the United States (New York: Oxford University Press, 2009), 241-242.

Cho[edit]

His biography in Chinese could be a good reference for this article. 67.117.82.1 22:11, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The assertion that the correct pronunciation of Tso is not "Cho" is correct, but the alternative "So" doesn't match the pinyin (zuo, in which zu is very much not s). [--Teucer]

I agree with the last comment, and modified the entry. It's still possible that 'so' is correct in some other dialect, so I clarified that it's ts in Mandarin. (In Cantonese, too.) Zompist 23:23, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction[edit]

In the "Notability" section, the following claim is made about the naming of General Tso's Chicken: "...the reasoning behind this, if it exists, has not yet been discovered."

In the very next section "See Also", a claim is made as to the reasoning behind the name.

One of the claims must be incorrect.

NPOV[edit]

Almost obvious when you read the introduction on the article. ref to American tastes and Knowledge, as well as status as individual make this one seem to me very NPOV. TomTPlant 18:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Other Military Poultry Heroes"[edit]

This seems questionable as Col. Sanders was a Kentucky Colonel, not a military officer. Lithoderm (talk) 16:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That section heading is hilarious by the way. --160.39.138.50 (talk) 23:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I got a big laugh. "Seems questionable" gave me another. Way to miss a joke. -- AvatarMN (talk) 05:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes[edit]

The recent changes [1] seem to have introduced a large amount of material that is not quite English, and is basically incomprehenisble.--Filll (talk | wpc) 22:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed this sentence:

“

In this battle,Qing dynasty's military spending loan from the HSBC that Zuo suggested this plan(on loan).

”

I considered changing it to "The Qing dynasty's military spending was financed by a loan from the HSBC, a plan suggested by Zuo" but that is too much of a guess, especially about HSBC. If anyone knows what the sentence means, please rewrite it and insert it after "and Chinese Turkestan in the 1870s." -Colfer2 (talk) 16:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cantonese[edit]

Can someone add the SAMPA and/or IPA pronounciations of Cantonese for the name, to go along with Mandrin? 76.66.202.139 (talk) 10:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely not! He didn't speak Cantonese and didn't have any connections to the region where Cantonese is spoken at all. He is from Hunan. You are disrepecting his native Xiang dialect. --188.99.186.139 (talk) 19:19, 13 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zuo Zongtang does not died of natural causes[edit]

he is leader of War Hawk, he believe should be fight continue to last and win, then he live in Fuzhou , its very danger because French force close him but he donot know, even Qing government announced Zuo died of natural causes because dove Li Hongzhang keep in Beijing,Zuo died of natural causes is not true you should believe if you really understood this history. (talk) 10:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

...I'm not sure if I understand. Do you have a WP:RS that says so? Colipon+(Talk) 15:01, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't believe User:Hans yulun lai. This user is blocked by zh.wikipedia.org (see zh:User:裕綸) until 2010 after repeatedly adding incorrect information to articles.--Mewaqua (talk) 12:19, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. He has been vandalizing many articles. Can any administrator do something about this please? Lonelydarksky (talk) 10:10, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

liu jintang[edit]

http://www.google.fr/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=liu+jintang+governor

Liu Jintang was one of Zuo Zongtang's suboordinate commanders. Expansion is required on their (zuo and liu's) tenure in reforming xinjiang.

05:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

[1] Coe, Andrew. Chop Suey: A Cultural History of Chinese Food in the United States (New York: Oxford University Press, 2009), 241-242.

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