Talk:River Trent

Comment

Should it also be 'near' Derby (It's about a mile from the Southern city boundary to the river if I recollect aright...) Linuxlad 10:59, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

River Trent info

there is not much river trent information on this page it would be more helpful if it listed the uses of the river,etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.189.203 (talk) 2006-05-21T14:33:53

Navigability

Presumably the right of navigation up to Burton upon Trent didn't last into the late 1800s or they wouldn't have permitted the chain ferry at Twyford, Derbyshire (see picture ). Linuxlad 15:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Head picture

The head picture is not of the River Trent! There is a small artificial lake in Highfields Park, Trent is a few km from there! I am removing the picture as irrelevant. It doesn't make sense to change the caption, as it will have nothin to do with Trent... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Patek (talk • contribs) 01:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

Canute and the tide

please can we see some evidence that Gainsborough and the Trent Aeiger are anything to do with the Canute story Stockwith 10:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Trent / Humber

Within the infobox, the page refers to locations on the River Humber not the River Trent. Tim P (talk) 20:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I also noticed this. One might argue that the Humber is a continuation of the Trent, but much better to regard it as a separate river formed by the amalgamation of the Trent and Ouse. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:32, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Migration

I have moved the section heading "Navigation" down, so that it is below the Shakespeare quote, because the river was probably not navigable at Ingleby in his time, nor is it relevant to navigation. I have removed a sentence suggested a boundary change between Derbyshire and Leicstershire, becasue the Trent is not the boundary between the two counties at Ingleby. Furthermore, the abandonment of a channel does not normally alter boundaries; gradual erosion would, but that is not what is suggested. On the other hand, I have added two other indications of the river having altered its course:

• 'Old Trent Water' either came from a tithe map or an estate map in Derbyshire Record Office
• The medieval bridge was found in an archaeological excavation, which I heard described in a lecture. It was probably where the river is the county boundary (between Notts and Liecs), that is, in or not far downstream of Castle Donnington.

In each case I hope some one can provide a reference for this or other deviations in its course. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Have added a couple of references that confirm the above, and edited slightly to include the reference to the Mississippi, and the location of the bridge Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I have removed the following sentence from the article, as I could find no mention of it in the above references, "The course of the river was altered in the area of Ingleby in Derbyshire, "moving" 300 acres (120 ha) from one side of the river to another." Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Improvement

Anyone see any reason not to nominate for a GA?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:11, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Probably needs some lead work to increase this to comply with WP:LEAD and some referencing work needed as unreferenced areas such as "The literal North/South divide" section. Keith D (talk) 12:15, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Might be worth a go, but there are still some big gaps for a river. There are no sections on Course, Catchment or Floods, and not much on the river upstream of the navigable bits. Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Good point about the headwaters. Isn't the route diagram a sort of description of the course? Been struggling to think what more could go in the lead. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 21:54, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

You could base it on the lead for the River Irwell, which has some similarites - navigation, floods, reduction in pollution issues etc. I will do a section on the course, when i get a moment. Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

There is not any information on the source, its route through Stoke, Knypersley Reservoir etc. And the diagram has nothing from Burton upstream. Also the importance of the river in power generation and the number of power stations on its banks. User:Bs0u10e01 (talk) 13:22, 04 April 2013 (UTC)

I have started the course, and included Source, Stoke etc. To be fair the article does (at the bottom) have a section on power stations. Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry i did see the detailed section on power stations after i wrote it. Check out 'Crossing England in a punt' on BBC Iplayer this week, a man travels the full length of the Trent in a boat. its very informative about the river. User:Bs0u10e01 (talk) 15:22, 05 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note about the Tom Fort programme, very useful. Have upgraded the tributaries section, hopefully this counts as an improvement Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:09, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Etymolgy of Aegir

See Talk:Trent_Aegir#Etymolgy_of_Aegir
--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 21:14, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Navigation Today

I have removed the following paragraph, as it is unreferenced and I can find no suitable ref. for it anywhere. It also assumes everyone would go 'up the Ouse'. Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Experience is especially necessary at Trent Falls, a lonely spot where the Trent joins the Yorkshire Ouse, to form the Humber estuary. The timetables of flows and tides of the two rivers and the estuary are very complex here, and vary through the lunar cycle. Boats coming down the Trent on an ebbing tide often have to anchor or beach themselves (sometimes in the dark) at Trent Falls to wait for the next incoming tide to carry them up the Ouse.

Bond End

Hello. Just perusing my river here and have a small query relating to the map where the legend says "Bond End Branch(to Trent and Mersey)". Not quite sure what that is meant to mean. There was a branch of the T&M that extended from the main course of the canal to join the Trent at Bond End. But it's not there now. Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? Picknick99 (talk) 18:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I don't have an answer, but the template was drawn up by Bob1960evens who may be able to help - if he gets this message as a notification...Jokulhlaup (talk) 14:07, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Route diagrams for rivers and canals use deep blue for navigable, light blue for un-navigable and green for un-watered. In this case the Bond End Branch is, as you say, not there now, but it was at one time, and the article is about the River Trent, not just its present condition. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:32, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Bob for the update, makes more sense to me now, this history page from Shobnall Marina gives a detailed account of the canal...Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:16, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:River Trent/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

# Improved References would go a long way to moving this up to A class Improvements to meet WP:MOS Ditto (have tweaked footer to refs, added EL section, and moved See also up). - BulldozerD11 (talk) 10:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC) Further guidance is at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about rivers.--Harkey (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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