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I've heard of another legend involving a Muramasa being thrust into the river to test it's sharpness. While it was probably not uncommon for other blades to be tested by cutting leaves (considering two diffrent time periods, Muramasa and Masamune are compared), it was said that when the leaves were sliced normally by a sword they would continue in whichever path they were going, where as when a leaf was cut in half by the blade of a Muramasa, it was said to begin circling the blade, almost like a surrounding aura, as though the blade itself was posessed. This led to many diffrent works and stories of cursed blades and the such. Has anyone else heard this legend?

Yeah, I heard that legend. In Samurai Deeper Kyo. Unless you can find some source showing that the legend didn't come from there, I'd suggest that the section about the Muramasa being thrust into a stream but deleted from the article.
Although I don't know about leaves circling the blade, don't delete anything about his sword being tested by being thrust into a river. The full version of the legend is on the Masamune page. JDub90 16:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

muramasa sword[edit]

there is a manga call "kyo samurai deeper"drawn by akimine Kamijyo,the hero is a evil one with a 150cm long Muramasa and when he get it out of is scabbard he get crazy about spending blood..

On a side note, I've deleted the error concerning "Murasame" being a misspelling of "Muramasa." Murasame is a seperate and distinct sword... see the article for Nansō Satomi Hakkenden.

NetHack[edit]

NetHack features an artifact weapon called the Tsurugi of Muramasa. In the game, it is like the vorpal sword's big brother. Instead of merely beheading creatures, it bisects them completely. It may be the Samurai's quest artifact; I cannot recall.

What an incredibly poorly written article, I'm gonna fix a bit, someone please find references for Ieyasu not liking the blades or else it goes. There, I put the part about the person at the start, introducing it, someone unfamiliar with Jap sword smithing might not know that they had schools of study for them. I cut out some of the Trivia, it said in two spots that video games had Murasama references, and the fact that in Tales of Symphonia it has no drawback is hardly noteworthy for this article, it does merely say often, Tales is not the one example in all the world off it having no drawback and that fact says nothing relevent about a Murasama sword. I also put the only authentic legend about a Murasama blade in a river I know, Samurai Deeper Kyo is hardly a credible reference. If refences show up for the leaves sticking to the blade or whatever feel free to put back. I'm not certain if we want to put in that the legend of the two blades is supposed to be a reflection on the two eras, Masamune's being relatively peaceful and Murasama's being very warlike (the Sengoku, warring states period).

Tachibana Ryukisai[edit]

Doing a search on this samurai, I find very few references aside from this Wikipedia article. I'm going to delete this unreferenced piece of information (that this man is the only samurai to wield a Muramasa blade without being cursed, according to legend). -Atamasama 19:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Needs more sources[edit]

This article consists of legend and myth, when it should be about a historical figure. Compare with the article on Miyamoto Musashi. More historical/biographical sources need to be found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.175.4 (talk) 03:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I agree. I am really looking for more historical information about him and not just legendary stuff.
I totally agree. As it stands now, it looks like something wrote by a 15 year old anime fanatic, it's awful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.58.137.48 (talk) 21:06, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the trivia section[edit]

Almost a year ago I tagged the "References to" section as being trivia. At the time all that was in there was a mention of a Sharp Electronics product with the name. Since then the section only grew, with irrelevant mentions of video game items and comic book appearances of the name. That is not what Wikipedia is for, see WP:HTRIVIA. Not to mention that there was not a single reference for any of the trivia added. Please restrict your contributions to expanding information about the historical figure, and feel free to include notable examples of his legacy that are backed up with a reliable source. Not a mention that you can get a sword called "Muramasa" in a Final Fantasy video game. -- Atamachat 19:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Wiki's policy for "popular culture / trivia" information is to not just list any appearances, but to state notable mentions and also how the appearance / subject impacted popular culture.24.190.34.219 (talk) 00:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Legend involving Tokugawa Ieyasu[edit]

I found a reference to one of the instances in which Tokugawa Ieyasu ran afoul of a Muramasa blade: a book of mine states he accidentally cut himself on one of his soldier's blades while inspecting it. This was at the battle of Sekigahara. The book doesn't say he forbade their use, but rather "he believed them unlucky for use within his family." Warner, Gordon and Donn Draeger (1991). Japanese Swordsmanship: Technique and Practice. Weatherhill Inc. p. 18. ISBN 0-8348-0236-8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.60.47.106 (talk) 04:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]