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Proposed merge with 3D Test of Antisemitism[edit]
I think it makes more sense for these to be one article since most sources consider this a defintion of "new antisemtism" Seraphim System (talk) 15:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support merging that article into this one. One of the hallmarks of the "new antisemitism" theory is that much criticism of Israel is veiled antisemitism, and the "3D test" was Sharansky's attempt to differentiate legitimate criticism of Israel from antisemitism. -- Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:25, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support the 3D article is basically a fork. Also, it is necessary to add sources that criticize the test as it is controversial and expands the definition of antisemitism. Nixon Now (talk) 18:45, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose: Simply because I think the 3D test is sufficiently a notable thing to have an article of its own. (However, that article should indeed include criticisms (as per Nixon Now). And it should also be trimmed of those examples which constitute SYN and OR, but which might be looked at first to see if they belong in this article, although this article is already rather bloated.) BobFromBrockley (talk) 13:02, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Independently notable subtopic. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 05:31, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose -- this article should be a broad one, about Jew-hatred of quasi-"left" origins, which is not always about Israel. For example, some would claim that modern new-antisemitism was launched into political prominence in the United States with the Ocean Hill-Brownsville strike of 1968, which had nothing to do with Israel. AnonMoos (talk) 12:10, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose -- per AnonMoos (and if he wants to expand this article, I would be more than happy).--J+N+J+B+ H+W+R+W+N% (Yaniv) (talk) 21:06, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
By the way User:Seraphim_System was later revealed to have about 50 sockpuppet accounts(!)... AnonMoos (talk) 09:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Evaluating authors[edit]
I don't know quite where this belongs, but there are factions in the American political landscape who are pro-Isreal but antisemitic. That has become increasingly clear since 2016.
In general writing intelligently about claims of new Antisemitism requires look at several factors, e.g.,
- Does the author investigate adverse claims or just take them as true
- Does the author apply the same standards as used for other countries
- Does the author distinguish among, e.g., Israel, Israeli citizens, Jews?
- Does the author put events in context?
Discussing any of these potentially runs afoul of WP:SYNTHESIS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 14:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- "pro-Isreal but antisemitic" I do not see much of a contradiction here. Supporting Israel for political reasons does not equate to supporting Jews or supporting the rights of Jewish minorities in various countries. In the last few years, I have encountered Greek far right voters who support an alliance with Israel (against Turkey), but have no problem blaming Jews for every social or economic problem faced by the entire world. Dimadick (talk) 23:45, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- You two need to read these articles:
- https://www.jpost.com/opinion/terra-incongnita-everyone-i-hate-is-hitler-dangerous-politicization-of-antisemitism-473188
- https://www.commentary.org/articles/robert-wistrich/the-new-war-against-the-jews/
- https://www.jpost.com/blogs/the-warped-mirror/from-al-jazeera-to-columbia-university-joseph-massads-obsession-with-israel-364634
- https://brandeiscenter.com/ali-abunimahs-orwellian-definition-of-anti-semitism/
- The idea that "there are factions in the American political landscape who are pro-Isreal but antisemitic" doesn't hold ground, let alone "has become increasingly clear since 2016". Your anecdote doesn't prove otherwise. Wake up! 69.113.233.201 (talk) 01:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Time Magazine cover story[edit]
The words "The New Antisemitism" appear in large letters on the cover of the March 11, 2024 issue of Time Magazine... AnonMoos (talk) 15:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
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