Talk:United Airlines

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Former good article nomineeUnited Airlines was a Engineering and technology good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Current status: Former good article nominee


BBB[edit]

The Better Business Bureau has given UA an 'F' for every search result I could find, including the Willis Tower location.

Would this be notable enough to include in this article? Jokem (talk) 01:47, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the 'F' rating has been scrubbed from the BBB site. All I see is an NR. Jokem (talk) 00:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No one has responded so I will just say the BBB has given them one star. Jokem (talk) 00:25, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents and incidents[edit]

I noticed that the Accidents and incidents section is formatted into a table. Most pages for airlines usually have it in the format of a few paragraphs, or a table with specific information for each incident. Should the section in this article be changed? Sethcampbell7293 (talk) 16:33, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changed it the other day along with a few other pages. I'm changing the way the Accidents and incidents for every airline is represented. The new way is cleaner and more organized. It also redirects to a separate category list for more in depth detail on the incidents. Funforme3 (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Destinations table[edit]

What happened to the list of destinations table it's been deleted? CHCBOY (talk) 14:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please bring back the UA destinations list. There is no other website that provided such a comprehensive and complete listing of United’s destinations, not even United.com! 2601:640:8300:1900:20A0:C63C:897D:6F71 (talk) 01:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This was discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United Airlines destinations, the result of the discussion was to delete the page. If you disagree, you may request a deletion review. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 03:28, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was not obvious that the article was about to be deleted as there was no mention of it on the actual page header. Most people don't know where AFD are located on Wikipedia. So it ended up being deleted quietly overnight for most people. CHCBOY (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2024[edit]

In the See also section, please add:

* {{annotated_link|United Breaks Guitars}}

which renders:

 Not done: I don't think this makes for an useful external link. First, this isn't actually an external link, second, this link is already in the "Legal and public relations" section of the "United Airlines Holdings" Navbox, which is a better location for links to articles within Wikipedia. --TheImaCow (talk) 12:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

United 2477 and United 35[edit]

Recently, there were two instances of United Airlines aircraft being involved in minor accidents ([1]UAL 35) and (UAL 2477). Do we include them in the table?

Also why is the accidents section formatted in a table; normally the accidents section is formatted into paragraphs, yes? LucsLee (talk) 19:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. These two incidents do not meet the minimum threshold of notability set forth at WP:AIRCRASH. As to why it's a table, I don't know. I know tables aren't preferred, but I'm not sure it's any better or worse than the prose format. RickyCourtney (talk) 20:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Roger that, thanks. LucsLee (talk) 11:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RickyCourtney ahhh ok I was curious as to why my edit was removed as it was technically notable incident that will probably result in a rebuild of the aircraft. After reading the qualifications of WP:AIRCRASH you're right. I wonder if there would be a better category use like aircraft incidents or accidents? Maybe both on the page?
I could also remake the table into a set of collapsible lists based on the table, would that be a good idea? Funforme3 (talk) 19:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the collapsible lists idea is great. The current one is not very easy to read nor is it all that accessible. LucsLee (talk) 21:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with changing up the format, but if the incidents don't meet the minimum threshold of notability set forth at WP:AIRCRASH, there's not a compelling reason to include them anywhere on Wikipedia. There are several "incidents" every week that get varying degrees of coverage. The point of the WP:AIRCRASH standard is to not get airline, aircraft and airport pages clogged up with these less important incidents. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 21:32, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK I reformatted the section to better present the data. Maybe this method would be a better standard to use for other similar pages. Funforme3 (talk) 19:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not a huge fan of this change. While I agree that these lists are better than the table, they don't add much detail.
Personally, I beleve that the gold standard format is a list with the date, the flight number (wikilinked to the incident page) and a brief one sentance description of the incident. Examples: SkyWest Airlines#Accidents and incidents and Alaska Airlines#Accidents and incidents. If it gets too long, they can be spun off into a standalone page like List of American Airlines accidents and incidents.
As I see it, the problem with the changes is that it left a lot of incidents with no explination whatsoever. For example, in 2020, we now list N816UA and N26123 with no links or explinations as to why those are listed.
I'd really like to see us focus on the list format instead. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 23:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly why they are placed into a collapsible list with the flight numbers or aircraft registration. If there is an accident with its own page you can hyperlink to it and not fill a page so long with descriptions of each incident that it ends up becoming a big eye sore of garbage. The forward redirect in the top of the collapsed list is there with the text to tell readers for more detail of each incident and a more complete list to view the category list of accidents and incidents. Due to the way this has been I have been making and updating these lists including making new list pages for categories containing all the extra detail of each incident. This leaves it so any page linked via category of a new incident or page it is automatically added. Soo you might have undone the work I did on one page but it has a use and purpose. Many were asking for changes like this on a few pages and I obliged and received some thanks for the update. Funforme3 (talk) 23:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, the problem is that we are left with entires that just contain the aircraft's registration number and no further details for the reader. A single sentance is not an eyesore or garbage, it's a summary. -- RickyCourtney (talk) 23:22, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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