Talk:Master chief petty officer

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Queries[edit]

  • Does anyone know exactly how many months/years are required at Senior Chief before they're eligible to go for Master Chief? I have no idea. - Wguynes 04:41, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Here are the Time In Rate (TIR) Requirements for U.S. Navy Enlisted Advancements (given in months):

SR to SA = 9 (w/No exam); SA to SN = 9 (w/No exam); SN to PO3 = 6; PO3 to PO2 = 12; PO2 to PO1 = 36*; PO1 to CPO = 36*; CPO to SCPO = 36 (w/No exam); SCPO to MCPO = 36 (w/No exam). *May be waived up to 1 year for Early Promotes (EP's) for advancement to PO1 or CPO only. Source = U.S. Navy Advancement Center

Based upon educational background, work background or incentives for advanced training, certain recruits may enter the Navy as SA or SN.

  • I used the insignia from the insignia table page. They're rather small and lacking in detail for use here, but better than nothing. If anyone finds higher quality, larger, and consistent-looking insignia for all the navy enlisted, please feel free to replace these. I think leaving the table page as the small ones is best, however, due to server load. - Wguynes 04:41, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • The MCPN insignia is incorrect. It should be all gold with a gold star as specialty mark. Mtnerd 22:06, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • That reflects the change back in the late 1990s where MCPOs in the Command Master Chief communities had their ratings changed to CMD (command) with a star as the rating symbol. This the ship's CMC actually has a rate of CMDCM.
  • Someone with an IP of 61.68.72.133 had reversed and confused a few things that I had changed (I hadn't registered yet, so all the info I added was under my IP address). Contrary to what he changed, the chief's level still follows the rating in abbreviations (ie, MMCM, vice the incorrect MCMM). I left the navy less than a year ago, and still work closely with ship's force on a daily basis. That's the way it was when I left, and I can assure you, that it's still the way it is. Izuko 13:33, Jul 25, 2005 (EST)

Halo reference[edit]

I think the Halo reference to John-117 should be moved - perhaps in italics at the very top or under a horizontal rule at the bottom. LockeShocke 21:18, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)

Why? It's a usage of the rank in popular culture. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 18:11, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

Check Halo Wikia. John's rank is now said to be Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy, according to the finishing cutscene of Halo 3. At least that's what everybody's saing. Think we'll have to move the reference entirely and create "references in popular culture" in MCPON-dedicated article.--193.232.120.132 (talk) 09:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inverted Stars[edit]

Does anybody know why the stars on top of the fouled anchor are inverted? I understand the reference to admiral stars.-thanks

  • It's done the same way as the star on a Line Officer's sleeve.

Izuko 20:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • The actual reason why the stars seem inverted is that they follow the chevrons on the Chief, Senior Chief, and Master Chief's insignia badges. As well they also represent the star on a Line Officer's sleeve.

"Blueshirts?"[edit]

I've heard them called "whitehats" a lot more frequently, in reference to the Dixie Cup. BulldogPete 14:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've never been a "whitehate," (though I've worn them), but I was a blueshirt for ten years. Consider blueshirt to be the modern equivalent of a bluejacket (you know, the infamous manual). Izuko 21:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Blueshirt is correct. I've also updated the intro. The color of the crow (the eagle) on the rank/rate insignia does not change -- it is always silver. Only the chevrons change color to reflect good conduct. Morning buzz (talk) 03:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC) morning_buzz[reply]

"CNO Directed Command Master Chief?"[edit]

As stated on the question, what is a CNO directed Command Master Chief?Centralman (talk) 13:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008[edit]

Article reassessed and graded as start class. No lead section, otherwise it would have passed B class criteria for structure.--dashiellx (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abbreviation[edit]

I quote "When combined with the petty officer level, this gives the short-hand for the chief's rank, such as FTCM for Master Chief Fire Control Technician". Is FTCM really correct? I would have expected MCFT or just possible FTMC but not FTCM... -- SGBailey (talk) 20:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a logical progression: FT3, FT2, FT1, FTC, FTCS, FTCM. (Note that during WW II, a chief was a CBM, CRM, &c, but this changed in the 1950s when Navy ratings were standardised as two-letter abbreviations and the two highest rates (SCPO and MCPO) were added to bring the Navy's rank structure in line with the other services'.) 24.61.4.237 (talk) 02:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's correct. C goes before M or S for master chief and senior chief respectively. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:46, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move?[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Rename. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:12, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Master Chief Petty Officer → Master chief petty officer –

  • To comply with Wikipedia (and universal) capitalization standards. The term, by itself, is a common noun. It should only be capitalized when paired with a name as a person's title or when used in direct address to a person. Holy (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC) Holy (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • While I agree with you, in my experience these decapitalisation of titles RMs are not uncontroversial and require a full discussion. Jenks24 (talk) 05:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per customary usage. See petty officer and chief petty officer. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 18:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess I can't support my own move request, but also see lieutenant colonel, lieutenant general, lieutenant commander, rear admiral, first sergeant, sergeant major, and others. Thanks for the responses. Holy (talk) 23:51, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support—no need to capitalize; even defense.gov lowercases these. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 05:22, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • SupportFor the reasons stated above, but maybe a note to clarify when it should and shouldn't be capitalised would be appropriate in the article.Number36 (talk) 22:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it looks like there's consensus on this and it has been more than seven days. For unknown reasons, I was unable to make the page move. What's the next step? Thanks. Holy (talk) 21:17, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

NOAA and CCPHS MCPO?[edit]

How can NOAA and the PHS both have MCPO when there commissioned officer only services. Does anyone have any proof this is a thing? 72.197.231.95 (talk) 14:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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