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The Maxthon Changelog states that Maxthon 3.0.17.1000 is the latest final Version of the Maxthon 3 branch. Maxthon released four RCs between 3.0.17.1000 and 3.0.12.8 Beta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.104.121.6 (talk) 18:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As of February 2019, This page: https://www.2-spyware.com/remove-maxthon-browser-virus.html claims that Maxthon creates an encrypted zip file that it sends back to China, with unknown contents, as it is password protected and the password is unknown to the computer owner.

It also appears that the most recent Maxthon is version 5. Bcent1234 (talk) 17:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This particular news is 2 1/2 years old. Yappy2bhere (talk) 05:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Features[edit]

"Maxthon seeks to provide many rich features, but without losing any of the compatibility of Internet Explorer. It competes directly with Firefox and Opera."

That line needs some citation.

And is false. Maxthon gets wrong things that even IE gets right. Maproom (talk) 14:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Changelog[edit]

Excuse me but... A wikipedia page really isn't the place for a Changelog, is it. I think a link from the Maxthon page would be appropriate, however.

Some think many are AD from the company. but most of them are not TRUE.

Correct Pronunciation?[edit]

Does anyone really pronounce it "Max-ton?"

I've always pronounced it "Max-thawn" Sockdude 21:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The official answer: http://www.maxthon.com/files/maxthon.mp3

That file doesn't seem to exist. "Max-ton" as opposed to "max-thon" certainly seems a strange pronunciation. Why didn't they call it Maxton if that's what they wanted? Flapdragon (talk) 08:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Try the earlier files from http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.maxthon.com/files/maxthon.mp3 In phonetic Chinese, maxton doesn't (AFAIK) mean anything, while maxthon does. 130.230.92.223 (talk) 15:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • it's a Chinese program. Don't expect the *Chinese* to use *English* pronunciation. Be happy it's spelled in Latin alphabet :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.50.43.90 (talk) 05:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But the Chinese name is something totally different, it's 傲游浏览器 (àoyóu liúlǎnqì) 219.232.58.198 (talk) 03:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Features list[edit]

This section reads more like ad copy from the company websiet than encyclopedic content. The exclamation marks and informal writing put me off, but as I've never heard of this browser before, I am patently unsuited to rewriting/fixing it. Have at it... -- nae'blis (talk) 20:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I myself am a Maxthon user, and I can say that, while what is listed in the features section is true, doesn't sound like what should be in a Wikipedia article. I'll work on it.

look at the firefox page almost all features & releases are mentioned, so if it's good for firefox why not here?? - Suren

Some edits[edit]

I've made a few edits to the features list now. I'm not sure whether or not that will be okay, or if the list should be gotten rid of all together. I shortened it down a bit, to try to make it look less like advertising.

Using Gecko[edit]

Couldn't the user also choose to use Gecko as Maxthon's layout engine? It's been a while since I last used Maxthon, but I thought I used something like that before.

Yes , still can but not yet in 2.x version. Usually requires installing Mozilla ActiveX Control

Add a section about Maxthon upcoming version[edit]

Please add some information about Maxthon new preview version 2.0 and what's new.

Done, doesn't sound good enough for Wikipedia, but the Firefox article had a similar list so it can be fixed. Michaelas10 12:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, But why when I uploaded a screenshot, It was deleted?

File manager ?[edit]

Removed the links to List and Comparison of File Managers. I don't think Maxthon is a file manager, and it is not listed in either of those pages anyway... -- Peter 08:27, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

needs criticism.[edit]

i would if i knew anything about the browser.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.153.0.67 (talk • contribs)

Reference would also be needed, besides one's knowledge. Springbreak04 23:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, then, here's a criticism: Wikipedia editors ignored an unsupported claim in the article lead ("Maxthon won a WebWare 100 Award in 2005") for almost two years before an alert editor flagging it. Now there are more than 1,000 echoes of this falsehood - there were no WebWare 100 Awards before 2007. (And again Wikipedia proves itself a potent anti-intellectual utility.)

Fact-checking is important, too, and doesn't require you to "know anything about the browser" in order to contribute. Yappy2bhere (talk) 20:38, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's TOO good? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.56.219 (talk) 20:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so there is a criticism: It sends data about visited pages and software installed on the computer to Bejing servers, regardles of user settings: https://exatel.pl/advisory/maxthonreporten.pdf 83.23.34.36 (talk) 12:56, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apple and Adobe (and I'm sure plenty of others) do this as well :( Grab a copy of Little Snitch, best program EVER ! 116.231.74.1 (talk) 14:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No matter what other companies do it. This is cancer and it should be highlited. On the other note, many of the browser features are of shoddy quality (like favourites window closing on you when you start selecting fav folder to put the bookmark in). This will be original research, but should be mentioned somehow. 92.100.133.169 (talk) 09:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Maxthonlogo.png[edit]

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Is Maxthon really a web browser or just an IE shell?[edit]

The web browser development chart. Note no presence of Yahoo's IE browser, MSN's, etc.

It added a few features that IE didn't have before version 7, but it doesn't really change it much. It's the same thing as those "browsers" that ISP's give you that are shells running on top of IE. None of those are on the web browser chart. SteveSims 15:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then one might as well say that Flock and Netscape aren't really browsers, just alternate UIs for Firefox with some extensions included, while K-Meleon/K-Ninja are just alternate shells for gecko with a bunch of features built-in. The only major difference is that Trident happens to included with Windows whether you like it or not, while the XUL-based Mozilla/firefox is the only "real" gecko based browser.
Netscape and Firefox share a rendering engine; Netscape does not run on top of Firefox. Maxthon, on the other hand, runs on top of Internet Explorer (a consequence of IE being built into the operating system). Netscape is self-contained (you don't need the Mozilla Foundation's Firefox browser to run Netscape) but you do need to have Internet Explorer on your computer to run Maxthon. SteveSims 20:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say the Netscape needs firefox to run, just that it is/was heavily based on firefox code. ( http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/article5691.html , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox#Licensing ). And you don't necessarily need IE itself to run maxthon (and many other Trident based browser), they run just fine with IE removed, as long as windows explorer is still capable of running (ie. mshtml.dll and a few other system files are kept). If one really removes all traces of IE and mshtml.dll from a windows installation ( http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=157214 and iepatcher.exe) then using maxthon (or Networker or Scope) with Trident is quite impossible in which case you have to have mozilla activex control installed to use the browsers with Gecko)
What about AOL Explorer? SBC Yahoo's browser? Are they like Maxthon, or do they require Internet Explorer itself to run? Are they just reskins of IE with login screens and a few ActiveX buttons added? SteveSims 18:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia lists Maxthon, AOL Explorer, etc. as shells. According to this Wikipedia article, an IE shell shares the same Trident rendering engine as the "real" Internet Explorer. They, Maxthon included, need the preinstalled Trident rendering engine that comes with IE in order to run. However, Netscape, Flock, etc. are not Firefox shells because they come with their own Gecko rendering engine; one doesn't need to install Firefox, keep at least the rendering engine, then install Netscape for Netscape to work.
So basically, Maxthon would become a browser in its own right if its developers were licensed the Trident rendering engine (instead of merely using Windows' copy) and include it in their install of Maxthon. SteveSims 19:06, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Which is unlikely to happen, unless MS start licensing Trident to be shipped with 3rd party products. Or provide an official way of running IE6 and IE7 side-by-side. An average end-user wouldn't see much of a diffence between a browser and a browser shell anyway. Many Kubuntu or Knoppix users would propably cry wolf if one called Konqueror 'just a browser shell' even though many other KDE apps use KHTML too.
It may be a shell, but its utter nonsense to say "doesn't really change it much" its the difference between a bicycle and a space shuttle - somebody who is willing to ignore the vast vast number of differences would easily be mistaken for a troll. IceHunter 20:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For the END USER it does not change much. One does not need to care about it, just use the browser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.50.43.90 (talk) 05:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Total Downloads[edit]

"Maxthon is reported to be the second most popular browser in China, and it has been downloaded more than 150 million times worldwide." The source for the second statement is the Maxthon site itself. Assuming maybe half the people end up using it as their primary browser, that leaves 75,000,000 people using it. Roughly 1.5 billion people use the internet (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm).

Given that, Maxthon should have roughly 5% of the usage shares of web browsers, but it isn't even mentioned anywhere. Is it because Wikipedia needs updating, or it's counted in the IE shares, or the downloads stats are faulty, etc.? If the latter, how would we find out?Tergadare (talk) 23:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly counted in IE shares ( http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/Maxthon/ ) , somewhat like Opera used to be by default. 85.194.193.95 (talk) 07:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stop hijacking references[edit]

Please, abide by WP:INTEGRITY. Don't insert new text in front of an existing reference unless the reference supports what you're adding. If you haven't read the reference, then assume that it lends no support to what you've added until you do read it. Yappy2bhere (talk) 22:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the Security and Privacy section there?[edit]

It has no content, and links to an article that doesn't say a thing about Maxthon. Shouldn't the link just be moved into See Also? (Or just deleted since there's no obvious relevance.) 188.167.106.247 (talk) 19:56, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.securityweek.com/maxthon-browser-sends-sensitive-data-china
—FlashSheridan (talk) 16:31, 14 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New Maxthon 4 features[edit]

There is a new feature of Maxthon where they added a dock called "Maxthon Dock." You can see it in its channelog. http://www.maxthon.com/windows/changelog/ Scroll down to version 4.0.5.3000 — Preceding Saa6786 (talk) 08:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

inspiration - Yura87 (talk) 14:19, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[edit]

Maxthon appears to be at least partly inspired by Opera, the "sidebar" extensions and other bits hint at this. Another possible inspiration for V3 was RockMelt's desktop edition (discontinued), though that one had two "docks" with different sidebar elements. In Maxthon V3, the RockMelt similarity is more pronounced since the profile portrait sits in the corner (in some variants) even when the sidebar is hidden. And, in V4, they just deided to allow making the dock "desktop-wide" - so one could just open the bookmarks and launch a bookmark without launching the browser first. Also, it IS a shell able to use Trident (and Gecko via the Gecko ActiveX for Trident) or Webkit (in future versions, Blink). Therefore, it could be thought of as a "multi-shell" even though it does (in WK mode) provide its own UAS (User Agent String), while using the IE UAS in Trident mode. Also, in Maxthon 4 they omited the "classic" mode of Maxthon. As of criticism, it's incredibly slow (paradoxically) in Webkit Mode, while being tolerable in Trident mode. In short, it started off as an enhancement but version 3 is a "fooler" (one can use Version 3 in Chrome mode but with an IE-like skin to appear like using IE).

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"Most of Maxthon’s engineers live and work in the company's Beijing office"

Most likely they don't live in the office. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.38.137.156 (talk) 12:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This is basically just an advertisement[edit]

The entire page just reads like an advertisement, with very flowery language, and a heavy reliance on primary sources... Many of which are just links to Maxthon-owned pages themselves.

Does this necessarily even belong on Wikipedia? I wouldn't be surprised if someone had been paid to write this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thosakwe (talk • contribs) 18:29, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Webkit or Chromium?[edit]

I don't think Maxthon uses webkit any more (if it ever did?) according to these release notes from 2019 they were using chromium: http://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0v-538300-r191/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jccalhoun (talk • contribs) 17:36, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - the Windows version, at least, is Chromium. It even says so on the splash screen on first install. 79.69.239.249 (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can publish updated information?[edit]

From Maxthon's website, it's already version 7.1.7.8100. I bet it must have more features included. Browserkid (talk) 05:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updated the headquarter and team working style[edit]

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I have updated the introduction to reflect the latest facts got from the founder in telegram. The headquarter is in Singapore and the team is working remotely from the world. @Browserkid I will try to update the latest info about this browser. Sola98 (talk) 06:47, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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