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Terminology and communication offense[edit]

In answer to #No mentioning of the Tesla system. It has Full Self Driving in beta.: If I understand the terminology and communication offense defined / being defined in the bill to regulate the use of automated vehicles on roads and in other public places; and to make other provision in relation to vehicle automation, when you say "Tesla autopilot is clearly not a self-driving car" while topic is "Tesla system (...) has Full Self Driving in beta",

if "self-driving" is a restricted term (who knows?) can someone ask:

(a) does (Wikipedia) permits the use of, a (self-driving) restricted term in connection with the promotion or supply of a (Tesla) road vehicle?
(b) is (Wikipedia) acting in the course of business?
(c) is the use of the (self-driving) restricted term directed at an end-user or potential end-user of the vehicle?
(d) is it reasonable to anticipate that the use of the (self-driving) term will come to the attention of an end-user or potential end-user of the vehicle in Great Britain?
(e) is the (Tesla) vehicle an appropriate (self-driving) vehicle?

else, for the purpose of communications likely to confuse as to autonomous capability, can someone ask:

(a) does (Wikipedia) permits the making of, a communication in connection with the promotion or supply of any product or service?
(b) is (Wikipedia) acting in the course of business?
(c) is (Wikipedia) communication directed at an end-user or potential end-user of a road vehicle?
(d) it is reasonable to anticipate that the (self-driving) communication will come to the attention of an end-user or potential end-user of a road vehicle in Great Britain?
(e) would the communication be likely to confuse end-users of road vehicles in Great Britain as to whether a vehicle that is not an authorized automated vehicle is capable of traveling autonomously, safely and legally on roads or other public places in Great Britain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.104.36 (talk) 21:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Technology, Testing and Incidents[edit]

This looks like a patchwork.

I believe the Self-driving_car#Technology section is too much detailed. Might the details be moved into self-driving car technology or self-driving vehicle technology?

I believe the Self-driving_car#Testing and Self-driving_car#Incidents sections are too much detailed. Might the details be moved into History of self-driving cars? 77.193.104.36 (talk) 21:28, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Auto car" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect Auto car has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 23 § Auto car until a consensus is reached. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 09:48, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA23 - Sect 201 - Thu[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2023 and 14 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Leozgzzz (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Leozgzzz (talk) 18:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Endangerment" versus "negligent homicide"[edit]

This article says "...Vasquez pled guilty to negligent homicide."

but the referenced article https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/tempe/2023/07/28/rafaela-vasquez-pleads-guilty-in-in-fatal-uber-self-driving-crash-killed-pedestrian-elaine-herzberg/70488361007/ says "pleaded guilty to one count of endangerment",
and this one https://www.wired.com/story/ubers-fatal-self-driving-car-crash-saga-over-operator-avoids-prison/ says "endangerment" as well, as does this one https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/29/business/uber-self-driving-car-death-guilty/index.html .

Possibly this one https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12350585/Backup-Uber-driver-death-fully-autonomous-car-pleads-guilty-endangerment-49-year-old-sentenced-supervision-five-years-Volvo-struck-pedestrian-49-Phoenix-suburb.html clarifies somewhat, as it says

"was charged with negligent homicide in 2020, pleaded guilty to endangerment"

and also

"Vasquez had been charged with negligent homicide, a felony. She pleaded guilty to an undesignated felony, meaning it could be reclassified as a misdemeanor if she completes probation."

None of these sources says what it says in the article. I am not very conversant with US legal matters, so I might get it wrong if I try to make a correction myself. FrankSier (talk) 14:07, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image replacement request[edit]

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hello! On behalf of Waymo, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I would like to submit an edit request to replace an image in the Self-driving car Wikipedia article.

Currently, the following 2017 photograph is used in the lead: File:Waymo Chrysler Pacifica in Los Altos, 2017.jpg. However, the vehicle shown in the article is no longer in service by Waymo.

I propose replacing the image with File:Waymo Jaguar I-Pace in San Francisco 2023 dllu.jpg, which is a more recent (2023) Quality image that shows a vehicle currently used by Waymo.

Here's a specific markup change:

I invite editors to update the article on my behalf. @InfiniteNexus: I am putting this request on your radar, since you've helped with a few Waymo edit requests in the past. Also notifying User:Dllu, who took the newer photograph. Thanks for your consideration! Inkian Jason (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that sounds good. I took both the new and old photos haha... dllu (t,c) 01:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:31, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, both! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]