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There have been a series of edits recently in the History section, beginning with this one on 22 December and culminating with one I just made. The edits probably deserve to be gone through in sequence, but their overall effect after that most recent one amounts to this. I think the current version is an improvement which addresses POV concerns behind the individual edits in the series. In the spirit of WP:BRD, I suggest that further improvements be discussed here rather than in an exchange of edit summaries. Wtmitchell(talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:43, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Is the article from a neutral point of view?[edit]
Is the article from a neutral point of view?
The article seems to mostly have a neutral point of view, using both liberal and conservative voices to measure the US' marks on human rights and potential violations. However, some sections may have a liberal bias. For example, the section on “coverage of violations in the media” seems to be biased; it only includes a critique of the New York Times coverage of human rights abuses, claiming it to be biased, but does not include opposing viewpoints or any more explanation of coverage violations in the media. The liberal viewpoint seems to be overrepresented in some sections, such as the section on Guantánamo Bay, which includes several liberal viewpoints and only one statement from a Republican senator.SarahD12345678910 (talk) 01:52, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Without looking at the details of this case, I'll comment that the focus here ought to be on dueness of weight rather than on neutrality as perceived by individual editors. Please don't take this as an argument against your points, I just want to point that up here. Wtmitchell(talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:50, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Project which address discrimination and human rights violation[edit]
Another editor continues to remove information, noted in this diff, which is cited information, because they think it's cherry picked. I don't want to revert again should they continue to remove, but thought it would be useful to start a discussion here. Can anyone take a look and see if this warrants being removed? To me, it looks relevant, but other opinions would be helpful. Thanks! SPF121188(talk this way)(contribs) 16:46, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This article is the definition of WP:UNDUE, with some editors having turned it into a forum for airing their grievances. WP:BALANCE is urgently needed, as an outsized proportion of the article's content is criticism, both sourced and unsourced. Specifically, parts like these are unencyclopedic: "While the US has maintained that it will "bring to justice those who commit genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes," even though the U.S.A. has supported many genocides, for example the Indonesian genocide in the 1960s;"Pizzigs (talk) 02:06, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's clearly a soft anti-US bias of some sort in this article which has been noted to happen from time to time on Wikipedia in general. I do support using "Human rights in the United Kingdom" as a model for rewrite. Lone Internaut (talk) 00:09, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have cleaned up the lead and tried to reduce statements that aren't relevant to an encyclopedic article. The article still has a bit of a "kitchen sink" feel, but at least it's not a giant list of every conceivable grievance about the United States that has ever existed in the history of humankind. --RockstoneSend me a message! 06:15, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I made some more changes, but clearly more is needed. I'll try to make a draft version closer to Human Rightsi n the United Kingdom and go from there. The thing that's frustrating is that most of what's described in this article really should be described in the main articles for each point. This article should be a high-level overview that gives the reader a good idea of where the US lies, both good and bad... not an laundry list airing of grievances. --RockstoneSend me a message! 10:16, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article's length indicates excessive detail and its content, for example the "enhanced interrogation" section (this should be covered in a section broadly covering torture and cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment) focuses far to much on different opinions about the topic, rather than verifiable facts.
That said, I'm not sure it has an anti-US bias. I think you would really have to look at reliable, independent sources and see what they say in order to make a determination. In the example you cite, many informed, reliable sources (such as this one) highlight a number of facts that undermine the United States' stated commitment to the prevention and punishment of atrocity crimes. (t · c) buidhe 04:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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