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API[edit]

Do any of the GNU experts out there know what the Apache Bucket API is? See [1]. It looks like this article should mention it. Andrewa 23:32, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)

It looks like the section on the computing meaning of bucket needs to be spun off to its own page. It's quite long for a section on a disambig page. Bucket as in pail could become an article in itself with a bit of work too. Bonalaw 13:16, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The non-wrapping lines that begin with spaces look really ugly in my Mozilla 1.7.3 and IE 6.0. Perhaps we could change them to be of smaller length so the page is more readable? --Culix 07:58, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) --> Ahh, looks like Gbleem took care of this. --Culix 20:28, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Etymology[edit]

Hi, I see my previous edits have been reverted..
Can cuts not be more selective..
Honey bucket is an existing article..
Milk bucket is a bucket or pail with quite a wide mouth making it suitable for milking cow by hand.
Bucket seats are deep seats that hug the body of driver or passenger and most often fitted with special seat belts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregorydavid (talk • contribs) 09:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, maybe I should have been more careful about extracting content rather than just reverting. I don't have anything against adding more kinds of bucket to the article, I just would not mention the phrase "pass the buck" since I'm not finding any backup for a connection between that phrase and buckets. DanielCristofani 09:36, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Wiki brings up so much "food for thought" so we may find the answer to that one some day.. Cheers, Gregorydavid 11:03, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that "pass the buck" comes from poker. The dealer button is also known as the buck, and in most games it circulates around the table clockwise. The current person with the dealer button has responsibility, and the advantage (in those variants with positional advantage) of acting last. Hence, you are passing responsibility by passing the buck. There are many sources for this, however it's possible that it's folk etymology. It is, however, the most reasonable etymology for the phrase I've heard of. --Storkk 19:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A Heff[edit]

The previous edit cut this out:

"A Heff of vague or indeterminate origin, with an unspecified handle."

In Afrikaans there is the word Hefboom which means lever hef in die hand means in control. Gregorydavid 07:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And? DanielCristofani 17:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

look, Its a valid reference. When I have time I'll be putting together a Disambiguation page for Heff, (oh, and a profile so I wont keep appearing as a blasted IP#) to cover the lack of referral. in the meantime, its not vandalism. for that, See version by Danisgod, 26th Febuary. (The Mr "Vandal" Guy) 05:43 16th May 2006 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.218.20 (talk)

The connection appears to be the horn of the buck which was commonly used for making handles of knives. To pass the buck means to pass a measure of control, in Afrikaans hef in die hand ie buck in the hand means being in control or having resposibility.. so? Gregorydavid 06:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A buck has no relation to a bucket.

A lever has no close relation to a bucket.

Thus, as far as I can tell, a "heff" does not have any relation to a bucket, even if "heff" were an English word, which it is not. (Thus it would be a bad idea to make a page for it.)

I do not think you are a vandal, but I think you have often made edits similar to the edits a subtle vandal would make. I beg you to be more careful in your edits, particularly edits having to do with the origin of words or adding things to "See also", to make sure you only add facts and not wild guesses or irrelevancies. For instance, in this edit you added Off the hook to the "See also" section of Off the shelf, when the two phrases have no similarity of meaning. And in this edit you stated, in very peculiar English, that the buttstock of a gun is so named because it resembles the human buttocks, and also that the word "stock" is derived from the word "stick", both of which are untrue. Then, in this edit you say the Venus shell is named 'porcella' because it resembles a pig's vulva, where in fact 'porcella' can mean 'little pig' or 'vulva' but not 'little pig's vulva'. Then too, this edit is highly speculative and not substantiated. Anyway, please be more careful; your mistakes are almost more dangerous than vandalism because they have plausibility and thus some of them have still not been cleaned up...

DanielCristofani 12:04, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would be I guess, had I made any of those other edits. I hit up the Bucket entry what seems like a bajillion (technical term) years ago and added the Heff reference then with the intent of adding a disambiguation and a full entry for Heff, and then life pulled a stunt on me and I ended up forgetting about it for ages. I've touched this entry and this entry ONLY so far on Wiki; The others you've listed simply arent me. I've got a lot on deck at the moment, namely an overdue holiday, but should be back home with some free time to sort a decent entry out for Heff re; Buckets by the start opf July. Would it be better to just leave it out until I can create a relevant entry to validate the reference here?

I mean, I dont pretend to know good etiquette for this, but I see a lot of red links throughout entries that have stood for a long time, and assumed perhaps that getting around to it eventually was sufficient.

mrvandal 13:32 16 May 2006 (GMT)

Leaving red links is one thing, leaving red links to "heff" or "grommle" or "splorg" is another, even if you later make a detailed Wikipedia article about grommles. But I suspect you knew that. DanielCristofani 22:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you are speaking to more than one contributor here..

Okay. DanielCristofani 22:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did not initiate the heff issue, I only tried to find a connection , and there is one with buck and the origin of pass the buck.

But there is no connection there. "Pass the buck" connects to "poker" and "knife" and "buck" and "deer", but none of these connect to "bucket", because "buck" does not connect to "bucket". A vague similarity of sound and spelling is not a reason to connect two articles; it would not be a good idea to edit Trap to say "see also tarp, part, art, tar, rap", nor would it be a good idea to edit Trap to say "The word "trap" is derived from the word "tarp", since an early kind of trap consisted of a tarp stretched across a spiked pit, and then covered with dirt". DanielCristofani 22:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The term Honey sucker is used in South Africa, maybe the bird is humming bird..

That's fine, but there is no reason to think the truck is called "honey wagon" for any reason having to do with any bird. It is just a guess, not a known fact, and Wikipedia is not supposed to be full of guesses stated as facts. This is part of the problem I have with your edits, as described above. DanielCristofani 22:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I use talk a lot and log on everyday..

So lets keep talking..

Gregorydavid 19:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Above (previous discussion), I added what I've heard concerning "pass the buck". Won't repeat it here. --Storkk 19:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hafting is the process of attaching a handle or shaft to a blade or point, not far off from the Afrikaans word "hef". Gregorydavid (talk) 07:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phraseology[edit]

to "kick the bucket" as used in language

The link above to an existing article was cut from this article. This link will enable others to research the point further. Gregorydavid 06:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

I see somebody is vandalising this article and punting KFC.. Can somebody fit it..? Gregorydavid 12:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pail[edit]

Someone has attacked the Pail page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.56.36.2 (talk) 04:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

Five-gallon bucket is claimed to be a type of bucket. It makes sense for it to be part of this article. Lightmouse (talk) 10:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. Rlsheehan (talk) 11:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The term pail has now been clarified. No further merger needed. Rlsheehan (talk) 17:19, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes merge. They should be merged. It is necessary to cite a dictionary specific to an industry to find that they are different. These two words have been for centuries synonyms for the same object. Just because one was chosen by the shipping industry does not make they two articles in Wikipedia. Nick Beeson (talk) 11:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Homestuck[edit]

um, you guys might want to consider protecting this page from homestuck fans... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.80.71 (talk) 10:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitrarily placed gallery[edit]

The gallery on this page does not belong where it is. I would move it to it's own section, but I cannot presently find another page that even has a gallery to use as an example. Is the gallery even necessary? 60.231.199.201 (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]