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Does not cite sources[edit]

I don't know how to flag this article, but it doesn't seem to have one citation in it. For all I know, the CP was built by a group of hyper-industrious Smurfs whose contributions are being ignored by a heartless author. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.97.164 (talk) 01:31, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Banff Springs Hotel Redirect?[edit]

Would it be a good idea to redirect Banff Springs Hotel to Canadian Pacific hotels?

I wouldn't, since I really think there should be an article on the hotel itself. I'll probably get around to creating at least a few paragraphs at some point. -- JamesTeterenko 16:12, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hotel List[edit]

Is the list of Hotels right ?

I think that Chateau Laurier in Ottawa should be added. About York Hotel in Toronto, it seems to have been a Delta Hotel. Phil

Didn't CP buy up the Jasper Park Lodge as well?--RAult (talk) 05:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CP also ran the SkyDome Hotel in the early 90s before it became a Renaissance Hotel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajbelongia (talkcontribs) 04:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename needed[edit]

Could somebody who knows how please capitalize "hotels" here? Canada's grand railway hotels is about hte topic in general, this article is supposed to be for a corporate division, fully-capped title.Skookum1 (talk) 21:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sicamous Hotel[edit]

This small Tudor-style hotel on Shuswap lake was left out of the text/list.....here are five pix, all public domain; I'm kinda partial to the third one; BC Archives also has great pix of Glacier House and Mount Stephen House....Skookum1 (talk) 17:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Canyon House and other minor hotels[edit]

I just added Canyon House as well as expanded the Balfour Hotel mention. I see Glacier House got mentioned; was Canyon Hot Springs a CPR operation? There's a likelihood there was a company-owned hotel at transfer points to the Arrow Lakes/Columbia River steamboats/rail lines southward; they owned real estate, hotels are all about real estate - and in those days, train schedules. One of the main hotels in Kamloops may have been CPR-owned too, and one in Cranbrook or even Radium, though maybe under some different incorporation/partnership. - Oh, the main reason I'm posting is to suggest that the section on the minor hotels and camps/houses be broken off within the larger discussion of the big hotels; maybe that's not doable for timeflow within the text though, but they're largely unknown and some of them, like the Sicamous and the Balfour, were little architectural gems in their own right. Canyon House (actually in North Bend, not Boston Bar proper) was partly resort/getaway (it can be sunnier than the Coast and by rail only about 4 hrs out) but also because of track outages, whether from snow or rock, and any engine servicing etc. I think there was one at Ashcroft, also, but it may have been BX Express owned, i.e. for connections (freight and passenger) to the Cariboo Road, which then was the only way northwards. With CPR boats operating on Lake Okanagan you'd think there'd be one in Penticton or Vernon or Kelowna, i.e. "from the old days" (there might well be a Fairmont Kelowna now for all I know) when, again, transfer between the train and the Lake and River Service meant there had to be somewhere for passengers to layover...Skookum1 (talk) 05:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oog, note: I think it might be Fraser Canyon House in North Bend, as opposed to Canyon House maybe being a name used for Canyon Hot Springs, I'll check; I know there's a webpage on the history of the one in North Bend so I'll be back.Skookum1 (talk) 05:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure that Canyon Hot Springs didn't have a CPR hotel. Albert Canyon station (just south of the current campground) had a depot, engine house, bunkhouse and wye for the pusher engines that were added to eastbound freights at this point, but there weren't any tourist facilities until the highway was built (I think). Indefatigable (talk) 22:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm must be the name "Canyon House" was an abbreviated form of "Fraser Canyon House", I just googled "'Canyon House' + CPR" and got some further history sites on Fraser Canyon House (though if that's ever an article maybe the later name North Bend Hotel could be used). "Canyon House" seems familiar though; maybe I'm confusing it with something in one of the US Parks....Skookum1 (talk) 23:43, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This GoogleBook result has some interesting details, including the name of teh architect and that Fraser Canyon House, Glacier House and Mount Stephen House were all designed by the same guy, with the same floorplan except in Mt Stephen's case reversed in layout; and that they were built as dining stations to relieve the need to haul dining cars....the designs look like the Balfour Hotel also, I'm wondering if it was also designed by Sorby....this link adds more weight to my notion that the lesser hotels need their own section, partly because of their common origin as "stationary dining cars" peculiar to the needs of trains in mountain terrain/grades....Skookum1 (talk) 23:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Incola, Penticton[edit]

I was in the museum the other day here and there was a whole wall on it; scine then I've noticed it on downtown murals but it stands no more: the Hotel Incola, which used to stand about where the casino or the gallery is now, or thereabouts anyway. It was a CPR hotel, gone to seed in its last years, finally destroyed by fire; big old frame thing with a wrap around porch/verandah overlooking the lake, and the main watering hole in town. I don't have any cites I can start it with, just serving notice it needs mention, and like the other minor hotels it needs articles; it's not so minor though, it wasn't just a dining station, it had been built as a first-class resort, and was large enough that maybe "minor" isn't its category. Makes sense to me that there'd have been a CPR hotel in Penticton, given the railway's routing and where else they were. The CPR hotels in Sicamous, Penticton and Balfour were all tied into the Lake and River Service so well see what turns up as I expand Steamboats on Lake Okanagan.Skookum1 (talk) 10:24, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Glacier House[edit]

The Glacier House demise surely has no meaningful connection to the Southern Mainline, which I believe never really took off as a scenic alternative to the main line, or become the main passenger route. The common argument is that the opening of the Connaught Tunnel created an access problem for the hotel. However, the answer is more complex. Refer Glacier House. DMBanks1 (talk) 02:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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