Talk:Kurt Warner

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someone who can edit the article please correct 'loosing' --> 'losing' ![edit]

whats with this?[edit]

Patriots coach Bill Belichick, determined to slow down Martz's high-flying, Warner-led attack, blitzed early and often, confusing the normally in-control Warner throughout the game

I removed that, the Patriots barley blitzed at all in that superbowl. they were mearly phyiscal with the recievers at the line and hit them hard when they caught it. The Pats blitzed a lot the first time they met that year and got burned they just played coverage in the superbowl.

First Things First[edit]

The caption for the First Things First logo says "The First Things First Foundation is dedicated to impacting lives by promoting christian values, sharing experiences and providing opportunities to encourage everyone that all things are possible when people seek to put first things first." Do we really need this pov pr ad? Aecis Appleknocker Flophouse 17:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I second this comment. If Warner supports First Things First then mentioning it in the article with a corresponding hyperlink would be appropriate. The current advertisement is practically a spinning flaming logo. Funkyj 23:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

I've noticed that biographical pieces with a certain tone tend to be copyright violations. --Gbleem 22:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Amsterdam[edit]

The article doesnt mention when he spent his time with the Admirals? Mattlore 10:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EVERYTHING?[edit]

I'm going to remove this learned-everything-from-Johnathan-Keenum thing. I seriously doubt he really learned "everything. If it's based on something true and you put it back in, please be more specific.SuperToad64 17:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Something to incorporate[edit]

I don't have the time to do it now - but this seems like good information for the article -> http://www.legis.state.ia.us/GA/78GA/Legislation/SR/00100/SR00120/Current.html. it's a bill that was passed to honor warner. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  09:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NFL Europe[edit]

What was his career like over there? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, short, just one season in spring of 1998. He led [1] the six team league in TDs and yards, and his 7-3 Admirals finished in a three-way tie with two other teams, but they missed the World Bowl. The Rams did not to sent him to Europe again after the 1998 NFL season - that the best players did not return was a rather frustrating feature of the NFLE. -- Matthead  Discuß   01:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Matt. Interesting. I added a bit with the source you gave. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problems[edit]

There are some ridiculous things in this article. Here are 3:

1. "Warner is best known for this year's unexpected drive to Super Bowl XLIII with the Arizona Cardinals."

This is just false. He rose to prominence during his stint with the Rams. I assume this was added by someone too young to remember that.

2. "He is the only NFL quarterback in history to accomplish that feat, and only the second other than Dan Marino to do it in his first two NFL starts."

I'm not sure what the second claim in this sentence is supposed to be. Are he and Dan Marino the only two, or is he the second of two people who are not Dan Marino? I assume it's the first thing, but that's not what that bit of English actually means.

3. "Warner is viewed as one of the five best quarterbacks in the Super Bowl Era by most football historians."

If you base it on Quarterback rating, Kurt Warner maintains the fifth highest rating in his career among all quarterbacks with a minimum of 1500 attempts, see NFL career passer rating leaders. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 04:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would just tag this as in need of a citation if it weren't so painfully obviously false. I can't find a top 10 list with Warner on it, much less a top 5. (A USA Today list I found didn't have a single vote him in the top 5 of Active QBs, much less the Super Bowl Era.)

I deleted the third thing. Other things should be addressed by more energetic editors. 145.116.8.74 (talk) 23:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3rd quarterback to start in super bowls for different teams?[edit]

Earl Morrall DID NOT START for the 1972 Dolphins. He started in most of games during the season due to the injury to Griese. He was replaced in AFC Championship game, and Bob Griese started in his place in the Super Bowl. That makes Kurt Warner the 2nd QB to start Super Bowls for different teams. I fixed this problem —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skw4712 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Skw4712. You are right, Earl started in the championship game. That makes Warner the 3rd different QB to win championship games with 2 different teams. Beni80 (talk) 05:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NFL Records[edit]

can someone add that Warner now holds the record for most career passing yards in super bowls with 1,219, surpassing Joe Montana's 1,142? Greengrapes (talk) 04:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correction please[edit]

Could someone who can edit this page correct the statement that Kurt Warner's PSA supported embryonic stem cell research. It opposed SCR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgakaa (talk • contribs) 02:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Passer Rating Ranking[edit]

There seems to be a discrepancy on Warner's place on the Career Passer Rating on his article. The reference in the article links to Pro Football Reference which lists him fourth behing Steve Young, Payton Manning, and Tony Romo. He should technically be listed third, not fourth. The NFL records books state that you need a minimun of 1500 attempts, and Tony Romo's numbers are just shy of that ammount. 2tum (talk) 04:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tony Romo has 1857 attempts to date see: [2]. Pro-football reference is also currently quite out of date. —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 04:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheated[edit]

Although Kurt Warner only won 1 out of 3 super bowls he should have won all 3. Kurt lost to the Patriots because of the spy gate and he lost to the Steelers because they cheated (everytime Kurt threw a first down the referees always threw a flag). If you ask me Kurt is 3-0 in the superbowl. The K.O. King (talk) 17:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No one asked. Jwalte04 (talk) 17:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


That's why I said IF. The K.O. King (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Thank God no one asked you, that is the most ridiculous statement I've ever read, and I'm a Warner fan. Rkorichard (talk) 02:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Indeed. How did the Steelers cheat if the referees threw flags? I'm not a Warner fan or a fan of morons, and this statement proves you just might fit the latter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.23.159 (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Steelers didn't cheat, but the referees and John Madden both appeared to be rooting heavily for the Steelers. Dirtiest team in football btw. It was a bummer. Jrgilb (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading titles[edit]

I just wanted to point out and explain my editing of two of the sub sections of this article. Typically an NFL season is referred to by the year in which it starts, even though it continues through the new year and into February. Example: the NFL 2009 season will actually end in February 2010. I changed the sub section titles in this article from saying "2009 playoffs" to "2008 post season", as well as the "2010 playoffs" to "2009 post season", respectively to avoid any confusion that these playoff games were part of the 2009 or 2010 season (which hasn't happened yet). They were actually part of the 2008 and 2009 NFL seasons. Thanks! —ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS 04:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not 1, but 2 Cinderella turnarounds[edit]

I hope someone can find a reference that makes this point: Twice in Warner's career he joined chronically bad teams and each time he led them to the Super Bowl. It is one of his most notable accomplishments, in my view, and it amplifies his Cinderella story.

The only other QB who has done this even once was Drew Brees last year. For the most part, chronically bad teams have not reached the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay had been chronically bad except for the 5 years before their Super Bowl when they won consistently. New England had an all-time (slightly) losing record before Tom Brady, but they had won consistently in the years leading up to his first SB win, and the team had lost 2 previous SBs.

In Warner's case, the Cardinals had been a notoriously bad team forever. The Rams, by contrast, had been historically successful, except during the 10 terrible years immediately preceding Warner, when they won an average of 4.5 games per year.

It may be a coincidence (or maybe not), but the Rams (Cleveland-LA-St. Louis) and Cardinals (Chicago-St. Louis-Phoenix) are also the only 2 surviving NFL franchises that have moved cities on 2 separate occasions, which is another sign of historical futility. Jrgilb (talk) 13:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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TMI - sports and religion[edit]

This is supposed to be an encyclopedic article about a sports personality. Does there really need to be a separate section about this person's religion and does it need to be stretched out with all sorts of personal quotes? Please stick to relevant information! 178.2.23.3 (talk) 17:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Stats[edit]

I think they should be broken out (College, Arena, NFL Europe, NFL). Does anyone object?--MattyMetalFan (talk) 19:09, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Spider bite?[edit]

The idea that Kurt Warner's tryout with the Bears was hampered by a spider bite seems far fetched. The link to the source [22] is empty. As an experienced ER doc, I know that "spider bites" usually are not spider bites but instead staph infections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.149.74 (talk) 19:12, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Playoff stats at end of lead section[edit]

The paragraph says Warner leads in completion % and Y/A in the playoffs, however, he's not even close to leading in either of those. And he's like 9th and 16th in those and older players have better so it's not like the stats are outdated. Is there some sort of qualification I'm missing like minimum attempts or games?

Bigmoe797 (talk) 21:19, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Records[edit]

Several of the Records seem to be in the wrong section.

i.e. Most touchdown passes in a single postseason is not in the shared section.

Highest completion percentage in a single game is not in the second place section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.53.102 (talk) 22:30, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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/* 2009 season */[edit]

On September 20, 2009, Warner broke the NFL's single-game record for completion percentage in the regular season, completing 24 of 26 passing for 243 yards and two touchdowns. Warner's 92.3 percent completion rate broke the previous NFL record set by Vinny Testaverde in 1993. <-- According to Pro-Football-Reference.com[1], Craig Morton held the record (17/18, 94.44%) until October 29th, 2012 when Alex Smith broke that record[2](18/19, 94.7%). Without qualifiers (Minimum 300 yards, minimum 20 attempts, minimum 3 touchdowns, etc.), the statement is false. 63.84.4.151 (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1981/week_4.htm
  2. ^ https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2012/week_8.htm
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