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As far as I can recall, the blue lobsters that have been caught/found have always been regular size adults. I don't recall ever having heard of a young/juvinile blue being found. This past weekend(sat, oct 20, 2007), at Brenton Point in Newport RI I found three tail segments of a baby blue, the segments being small enough that I can just barely fit my pinky finger inside of them. Don't know if this is anything that someone might be interested in knowing about - but I found it to be an amazing find.also even though lobsters like to swim they prefer to walk. signed: cavecrawler83@yahoo.com.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.92.61 (talk) 17:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Acadian-indian lobster-related tensions of 1999[edit]

I've put my two acadian cents in, about the fishing crisis between acadians and Mik-mak indians in the canadian maritimes. I remember all that, I was there back then. Just not all that sure it fits in with all that stuff...-corosive_frog@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.167.57.238 (talk) 03:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same as Maritimes lobster?[edit]

Is this the type of lobster you find in the Maritimes?--Sonjaaa 07:07, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)

Yes. (anon user) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.177.18.3 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 18 November 2004 (UTC)

Why is it called american lobster because most of it is caught by canadians and around nova scotia?

I'd guess that the reason for this is that Canada is part of North America, and that this lobster is caught all along the northeastern seaboard of the continent. LocutusMIT 22:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The American Lobster has also been found in the waters off of Southern California. Apparently they were set free by peta and now co-habitate with the Spiney Lobster which does not have claws. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.137.67 (talk) 04:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Information sources[edit]

My information (no direct quotes) comes from The Secret Life of Lobsters by Trevor Corson, first edition, 2004 from HarperCollins.

Referenced so far:

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--Elijah 20:01, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)

As of my last edit, all but the demographic bottleneck and prey have been used, but building and digging could be expanded.

A nice antomical drawing, like this one:

bottom view from Gulf of Maine Aquarium Lobster Anatomy Projects

would be nice. The role of serotonin in fighting could be added, see:

[1]

--Elijah 23:41, 2004 Dec 3 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

In line with the agreement that animal names other than bird names should not be capitalised, and in line with all the other crustacean pages, these names should be converted to lower case. Stemonitis 11:27, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Support. This makes inline linking easier. Jonathunder 17:44, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)
  • Support - makes sense according to policy. violet/riga (t) 18:44, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Support this and all other (nonavian?) animal moves. — Knowledge Seeker দ 20:05, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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I persume a vote to move American Lobster includes Caribbean Hermit Crab → Caribbean hermit crab as per the request on WP:RM page --Philip Baird Shearer 18:38, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I know that somewhere it's written that only birds should be capitalised, but the reality is that many articles and redlinks for specific species other than birds are capitalized (eg Category:Rhinos, Category:Opossums, Canidae, Idiosepiidae, Crocodile). I don't know if the discussion on whether animal names should be capitalized was ever publicized enuf to gain a meaningful consensus (I don't remember where I saw it, but if I remember correctly there were less than ten people involved). Niteowlneils 02:05, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The first word of an article title is always capitalized. Later words usually aren't unless they would be in ordinary text. This is to make inline linking easier. I don't know why birds would be different. That seems odd. Can anyone point to where that's written? Jonathunder 00:32, 2005 Mar 7 (UTC)
It seems odd to me as well, but in the past when I brought it up (for animals in general), I was told that it is controversial and that apparently field guides for ornithology use capital letters. I have yet to see any use of capitals for other animals in any journal article, reference work, encyclopedia, etc. (outside of Wikipedia). I personally feel that all should be lower-cased, unless a proper noun (e.g., Pacific white-sided dolphin, but bottlenose dolphin). — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:08, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In some fields, there are de facto committees deciding on "official" English "vernacular" names for taxa. One such field is the birds of North America (and, to my knowledge, only there) which is decreed by the AOU Checklist Committee. In a (ongoing) discussion on TAXACOM, the only other group suggested for which "standardised" English names have been produced is North American herpets (reptiles and amphibians) - (Standard Common and Current Scientific Names for North American Amphibians, Turtles, Reptiles, and Crocodilians. Fifth Edition (2002) by Joseph T. Collins and Travis W. Taggart [2]). So it seems that outside the vertebrates of the USA (and possibly Canada), there is no case for, or tradition of, capitalisation. The discussion, or at least part of it, was at: Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(fauna). Stemonitis 08:02, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Moved: American Lobster → American lobster. violet/riga (t) 20:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Links[edit]

This page needs links. Anyone know any other resorces? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.5.147.2 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 7 April 2005 (UTC)

The following links do not work and need to be removed or replaced:
* "American lobster". NOAA FishWatch (http://www.fishwatch.gov/seafood_profiles/species/lobster/species_pages/american_lobster.htm)
* The Lobster Institute at the University of Maine (http://www.lobster.um.maine.edu)
* Rhode Island Sea Grant Fact Sheet (http://seagrant.gso.uri.edu/factsheets/fslobster.html)
50.141.32.214 (talk) 03:07, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Superlobsters? Turds?[edit]

I searched Google, finding that the only pages mentioning the terms "superlobster" and "postlarva" at the same time are quoting the Wikipedia article. Also, I did not find a single reference to lobsters referred to as "turds" after molting. I believe those entries are vandalisms and must be removed. -- Devil Master, 30 Mar 2006, 23:53 (MET)

Secret Life of Lobsters, a book about lobsters and the lobstering industry, documents superlobsters. They are a stage in the development of a lobster in which they are able to swim, albeit clumsily, with their claws outstretched in front of them. Their appearance while swimming is reminiscent of Superman, so the (informal) nickname of a lobster in this stage is a "superlobster." I don't know about calling them turds, that could entirely be vandalism. Notostraca 23:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blue lobster[edit]

Blue lobster redirects here, but there is not so much as a sentence about it. --Centrx 07:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blue lobster content has been added along with split color lobster. --Awing0 17:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Lobster[edit]

Hey, I just added information about the yellow lobster. While I cant cite any sorces unfortunatly, I can state that it has passed away. My uncle owns The Rockland Cafe, which is where the lobster was located. my mother just got off the phone with him, and he had just finished explaining that he had just replaced the compressor a few weeks ago, and it died last night, causing him to loose all his lobsters in his resturant. If I can find a sorce *im sure it will be in rocklands newspaper* i will post it. Unfortunatly I live in Pennsylvania and am not making a trip back to Rockland untill next month.--Azslande 22:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Im looking now, but I doubt I will find any sorces for at least a day or two as I doubt its hit the news paper yet.--Azslande 22:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes I realise this, but I know for a fact that its been published, Im just having a hard time finding a link to a news article on it. If I cannot find a directly link within a few days, I have no problem with it being removed, I just know for a fact that it has happened.--Azslande 20:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lobster size during the English and Dutch colonization of the New York City area[edit]

I had heard what perhaps is an urban legend that lobsters grew up to six feet in length during the 16th and 17th centuries, due to a paucity of their natural predators, codfish and man. RahadyanS 16:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats has reports of six-foot lobsters that could drag humans underwater and drown them. I'd say they're fanciful at best, but who knows? Sperm whales used to reach 90 feet before whaling became excessive. PenguinJockey 19:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The book Secret Life of Lobsters notes that at least one four-foot lobster has been observed in modern times. Blaze Birch 17:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Vandalism[edit]

"Lobsters are to be cooked in a pot of ass" and " "Lobsters are to be cooked i a po of ass" in the American Lobster industry paragraph at the end of the page appears to be vandalism. The Red Panda 21:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two-toned lobster found in Rhode Island[edit]

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/two-toned-lobster-caught-off-rhode/20070602192809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001--63.152.13.93 04:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Grilling[edit]

If you cut them in half length-wise and grill them, they squirm and twitch as the nerves burn... scared the piss out of me the first time I saw that... Kingoomieiii 01:18, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Life cycle?[edit]

I think that the section on eggs should be moved under life cycle. I really didn't understand the section on life cycle at all until I read the section on eggs. Pafferguy (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lobster food?[edit]

I think this page should have information on what the american lobster eats. In fact, I will try to research that and add it later, but I hope someone else can do it first. Pafferguy (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Diet section plagairized[edit]

This section is taken verbatim from [3]. The information seems good but it is probably a copyright violation. Bob98133 (talk) 14:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Life cycle - new edits plagiarized[edit]

From this page: http://science.jrank.org/pages/3982/Lobsters-Lobster-reproduction.html The page clearly states that the infromation is free but must be credited to source.Bob98133 (talk) 15:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All recent edits by 24.128.29.198 are plagiarized[edit]

The latest Life Cycle one comes from this copyrighted page: [4]Bob98133 (talk) 15:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is, all edits to the American lobster page. All of this editor's other edits today have been vandalism. Bob98133 (talk) 15:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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New photo uploads[edit]

Please see Commons:User:Postdlf/Lobster; I just uploaded 14 pictures of live lobsters that I think are Homarus americanus. I believe these illustrate details of their anatomy better than others previously available, particularly features of the head (and is that their mouth underneath? weird). Please take a look, help me write more informative descriptions and anatomical labels, and determine whether they might be helpful in this article. Cheers, Postdlf (talk) 23:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Antennae[edit]

I expanded this section today with info I found at the referenced site. Since I'm not a copyvio expert nor a regular editor of this article, I'll understand any exception taken to my edit. Thanks Tiderolls 23:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blue lobsters aren't rare![edit]

I saw some at Wal-Mart a few months ago. I think they are still selling them. --72.197.35.238 (talk) 04:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You saw a Blue Crayfish, not a Blue Lobster. They're very different; those crayfish max out at like, 4-6 inches I am pretty sure. Procambarus alleni is the name. 67.249.178.169 (talk) 15:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The McLobster is encyclopedia-worthy?[edit]

This sounds more like an advertisement to call out the McLobster specifically. Why wouldn't this just fit under a "lobster roll" section as a way to eat lobster? 155.212.30.130 (talk) 20:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lobster Sex[edit]

Would it be noteworthy to say that you can tell the diffrence between a male lobster and a female lobster based on the last two fins (Swimmerets, closest to body) on it's tail? Soft = Female, Hard = Male. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 15:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

I don't know how to add the tag, but any part of this article before discussion of the color morph lacks sources. Can someone go in and add citations to the text? 67.249.178.169 (talk) 15:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

smelling[edit]

Howdy. Is it right, both the antennae und the antennules can sense odor and smell? According to A Guide to Lobstering in Maine the antennae is "a long, whip like pair used in touch and orientation" and only the antennules are "used in the chemical location of food". so? --92.195.31.71 (talk) 17:57, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here too: slgo.ca "The large antennas are used particularly for touching, and allow lobsters to find their way in their environment. The small antennas allow them to recognize various chemical signals in water." --92.78.95.60 (talk) 10:58, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do not want to change anything because people get upset and flame wars ensue, but I work on this field and I have not found any support for the following section. It DOES make sense and it makes a good story, but I do not know of any support. There is certainly nothing along those lines in the reference mentioned.

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The "red tail" common name refers to a dark orange discoloration of the ventral abdomen of affected lobsters. This is, in fact, the hemolymph or blood seen through the thin ventral arthrodial membranes. The red discoloration comes from astaxanthin, a carotenoid pigment exported to the blood during times of stress. The same sign is also seen in other diseases of lobsters and appears to be a nonspecific stress response, possibly relating to the antioxidant and immunostimulatory properties of the astaxanthin molecule.

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Potential better image[edit]

A reader provided a nice image of a blue lobster than may be better than the one currently in the article.

It needs a completed permissions statement, but I anticipate that soon. Completed

File:Blue lobster.jpg--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:37, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not seeing any dissenting opinions, I went ahead with the change. Of course, we can still discuss.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:27, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

lead image is misleading[edit]

Surely the lead picture should be of an animal without bands on its claws. Someone unfamiliat with lobsters might mistake these for yellow stripes!__DrChrissy (talk) 19:40, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Better Top Picture?[edit]

The picture showing the lobster seems to be a cooked, and not live lobster. This seems like it would be very misleading to someone not familiar with the animal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.39.104 (talk) 19:29, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Head - antennae[edit]

The antennae are clearly longer than 2 inches (51 mm). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.30.179.46 (talk) 08:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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