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Shopping[edit]

The 'shopping' category needs an update regarding the Victoria Centre and Broadmarsh. With developments for the former well underway and clear plans for the Broadmarsh submitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilb3rn4tor (talk • contribs) 12:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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City Image[edit]

I'd quite like to see an updated image representing the city; something along the lines of Manchester or Birmingham's header image. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshenTheSettler (talk • contribs) 17:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

History - Edward III and Roger Mortimer[edit]

Roger Mortimer, effectively acting as Edward III's regent during his minority, was captured at Nottingham Castle by Edward and some young Turks. This is from Mortimer's page on wiki:-

The jealousy and anger of many nobles were aroused by Mortimer's use of power. Henry, Earl of Lancaster, one of the principals behind Edward II's deposition, tried to overthrow Mortimer, but the action was ineffective as the young king passively stood by. Then, in March 1330, Mortimer ordered the execution of Edmund, Earl of Kent, the half-brother of Edward II. After this execution Henry Lancaster prevailed upon the young king, Edward III, to assert his independence. In October 1330, a Parliament was summoned to Nottingham, just days before Edward's eighteenth birthday, and Mortimer and Isabella were seized by Edward and his companions from inside Nottingham Castle. In spite of Isabella's entreaty to her son, "Fair son, have pity on the gentle Mortimer," Mortimer was conveyed to the Tower. Accused of assuming royal power and of various other high misdemeanours, he was condemned without trial and ignominiously hanged at Tyburn on 29 November 1330, his vast estates forfeited to the crown. His body hung at the gallows for two days and nights in full view of the populace. Mortimer's widow Joan received a pardon in 1336 and survived till 1356. She was buried beside Mortimer at Wigmore, but the site was later destroyed.

Some or all of this story would fit well in the History section of this page on Nottingham, being one of the most dramatic events in the city's history when Edward III finally took charge of the country.


86.140.142.236 (talk) 23:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC) Dantes Warden[reply]

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  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Mortimer,_1st_Earl_of_March

Weather boxes[edit]

Why is Sutton Bonnington, which is outside of the city, used in the climate section? Surely a weather box for Watnall is all that is needed - if Sutton Bonnington is used it should be either on the article for the village itself, or on the Loughborough article, nearest town.2A02:C7F:C812:FD00:C541:F7F5:2531:957F (talk) 23:01, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Watnall is also outside of the city, and having more information (that can be easily hidden) isn't making the article worse? —Kusma (t·c) 08:46, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Climate is better covered at the county level article. Microclimate can vary over a few miles, so the detail is likely to be incorrect for the city. I have removed these boxes in the past, only to have them put back by a weather enthusiast. I prpose removing the boxes and restricting weather to a short prose description per WP:PROSE.Charles (talk) 09:41, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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"Within the city" and "around the city" locations[edit]

It would be helpful if the "Around the city" section gave some criterion for inclusion - one place was recently removed as "Quite a distance from the city itself", while others in the list are further away. PamD 23:29, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly does this list of places around or in the city actually do? A lot of it is subjective especially in the case of Langley Mill and Ilkeston which while are near Nottingham. Would be better placed in the Greater Nottingham article than here for the city alone given the actual urban area includes Derby, Sutton-in-Ashfield, Mansfield, Alfreton Belper, Ripley Heanor. etc...I really don't see how the around the city bit works whereas those which are in the city like Bulwell, Arnold, Beeston, West Bridgford, Hucknall and Daybrook are better placed to be mentioned than others like Langley Mill Ilkeston Long Eaton Sandiacre and Ruddington which are not directly near the city area...DragonofBatley (talk) 00:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overcrowding in the early 19th century[edit]

In The Bleak Age, a book by J. L. and Barbara Hammond (1947 edition), the following passage occurs on page 57:

..it is safe to say that the worst overcrowding was to be found in the old quarters of existing towns. Manchester, Liverpool, London, were hard to beat; Leeds could show districts where overcrowding could hardly be carried further; but Nottingham was the worst example. Nottingham could not grow easily, and it contained in a narrow space 11,000 inhabited houses laid out in narrow streets, many of them "built in confined courts and alleys, the entrance of which is usually through a tunnel from 30 to 36 inches wide, about 8 feet high, and from 25 to 30 feet long." Of the 11,000 houses, upwards of 7,000 were built "back to back and side to side."

Why could Nottingham not grow easily? Was it a matter of the steepness of the Trent valley, or was there marshy ground where housing would otherwise be easily built, or was there perhaps some other reason? Harfarhs (talk) 21:09, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From 'To the Castle' from = People's Histreh =
Nottingham Radical History Group
"Nottingham was surrounded by areas to which various protagonists claimed ‘inviolable’ property rights. On the west the expansion of the town was blocked by the Duke of Newcastle’s Nottingham Park and Lord Middleton’s Wollaton Park. On the east there was Colwick parish, owned by the Musters family. To the North and the South were the common fields and meadows, which have
been described as ‘the biggest stumbling block of all’. The common lands were not as common as the name suggests, as they were mostly controlled by burgesses and freeholders, vigorously defending their users’ rights. A frequent though paradoxical argument by the opponents of enclosure were health reasons, as they claimed that public interest demanded the preservation of
Nottingham’s open spaces. But it can be assumed that opposition to enclosure was primarily upheld for economical reasons. Some who held users’ rights on the commons were renting them out as grazing spaces and others were landlords who wanted to keep their overcrowded town properties occupied." 84.64.51.122 (talk) 14:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Demonym is missing from the pale-blue box at top right[edit]

The info-box should be a standard template for every municipality about which there is an article. That box contains the demonym for that municipality in almost all Wikipedia articles about municipalities that I've read here. I assume it started out life as standard, and that someone has DELETED the demonym. Please fix Wikipedia so that this kind of information is standardized across all municipalities. I came here for one quick look to see if people from Nottingham are called "Nottinghammers" and that is NOT here. This is how Wikipedia wastes people's time when information is standardized across many, but not all, articles within a category of things such as "municipalities". Uniform templates are of the utmost importance.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 22:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson[reply]

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