Talk:Ars nova (music)

French ars nova

Is the "French Ars Nova" the ars subtilior? Hyacinth 05:29, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No, actually it is not. The French ars nova began around 1320 with Philippe de Vitry, and peaked with the music of Guillaume de Machaut. The ars subtilior was a late development, after Machaut, mainly in Avignon (rather than the north of France, the home of the ars nova), which involved music of bizarre complexity and extremely unusual notation. Sometimes the phrase ars nova is used loosely for all the music of the 14th century though. Antandrus 05:32, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Moved without discussion?

Hi, I would have thought it would at least be common courtesy to post here before moving this article. So now Ars nova, the most common term for 100 years of music in Europe is moved because there are two bands which have taken this name? When one usage so dominates over others, isn't that what the {{otheruses}} tag is for? -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 22:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Strongly agree with Myke. This article should be moved back to Ars nova. A standard word usage that has been around for a while, which is a commonly used term in a major field of study, should have priority. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 03:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)