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RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph of Nazareth, Not moved, 5 January 2006, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 1 § Requested move
RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph of Nazareth, No consensus, 8 November 2013, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 3 § Requested move 2013
RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph (father of Jesus), No consensus, 3 December 2013, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 3 § Requested move 3
RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph, husband of Mary, Not moved, 27 December 2017, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 4 § Requested move 27 December 2017

Missing links?[edit]

Searching for "St. Joseph" takes me to this page. There are links to pages about other St. Josephs and other Biblical Josephs, but no link that would let me find place names such as St. Joseph, Missouri. Seems like a miss... Ajb61 (talk) 03:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I added 'and uses' in the hatnote so that may be enough to relieve readers confusion (the link leads to Saint Joseph (disambiguation). Randy Kryn (talk) 03:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Most Chaste St. Joseph[edit]

A very limited number of sources is available on Google with regards to the official title of Most Chaste St. Joseph, which logically derives from the dogma of the Perpetual Virginity of Mary. Tha title is testisfied by the devotion to the Most Chaste Hearth of St. Joseph and to the one of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, which were often worshiped together. The first is sourced by an book of prayers dated back to 1884, while the latter is connected with her title New Eve and Co-Redemptrix. No pages on Wikipedia are using this highly important Roman Catholic title. So it has been sourced on WP.

The complete and more correct title is Most Chaste and Pure Earth, given that chastity and purity can stay together and strenghten each other. They are something like preconditions of the other seven virtues.

Hope an uniquie and more recent source could be found and made available, possibly with some photographic or documental references related to the 19th century backwards, which would be useful to demonstrate the ancient and traditional nature of this Roman Catholic title. The role of chasitity and purity in relation to the seven virtues needs to be better clarified, with the aid of other more expert contributors. I wish to thank them in advance for any eventual improvement.Theologian81sp (talk) 14:13, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edits[edit]

I think it is wrong to call Joseph "a New Testament figure". Since all scholars agree that Jesus existed historically, he clearly had a father (independently of religious beliefs about the Virgin birth of Jesus) and scholars usually accept that his father was indeed named Joseph (Yosef was a common name in 1st century Galilee). So I suggest we edit this page in stating that he was "a 1st century man of Nazareth" similarly to the page of Mary, mother of Jesus.-Karma1998 (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relics of Saint Joseph[edit]

As said in the version comment: It is unclear what this is supposed to tell the reader. Furthermore, it is also illogical: if applies to Mary and St. John as well, Joseph cannot be "the only Saint". Furthermore, there is more than one kind of relic (see for second or third class relics). As I could see from at least one of your sources: the source only says, that there seem to be no bones etc, however, your wording is "not claimed by anyone..." Medusahead (talk) 09:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong lineage[edit]

@Medusahead: What you have commented out has been pointed by Jewish scholars who oppose Christianity. But Christian apologists found a way around that. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. However, in any case there should be a possibility to point out who said (claims?) that, as it begins "Christians point to Joseph's lineage…". --Medusahead (talk) 08:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]