Wikipedia:Peer review/Ludwig van Beethoven/archive1

Ludwig van Beethoven

This could become a featured article, but it needs work and peer review. -- Tony Jin | (talk) 18:11, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

It also needs larger lead, references, expantion of section 'Beethoven's musical style and innovations' from subarticle, expantion or merge of one sentence section 'Beethoven as fictional character' - and this is just for starters. It needs much work. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:16, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'd suggest splitting the "Life and work" section into two; one covering his life and the other covering his work. More information is needed on his life – some easy things might be better explanations of his health problems and his financial problems. Right now the article says "He often had financial troubles", but fails to address the reasons why. After all, this guy was writing tons of music; why wasn't he rich? Also, "Beethoven was often in poor health" needs elaboration. Childhood sicknesses? I seem to recall seeing some sort of listing of his infirmities; he had alot of them. How did they affect his work? Additionally, the paragraphs on Beethoven's early, middle and late work are all incredibly short. These should be developed and made into the work section mentioned above. In general, more information needs to be pulled from Beethoven: life and work, Beethoven's musical style and innovations, Beethoven's religious beliefs and Beethoven as fictional character and placed in this article. --Spangineer ∞ 18:57, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

Consensus on the talk page was *not* to infest the main Beethoven page with trivia by placing accounts of the fictional Beethovens into it. At best that article ought to be a "see also". (Actually, I have been bold and made it so.) Otherwise I think like most of the broad topics in music it needs work; the topic is so sprawling that no one wants to tackle improving the cohesiveness of the article. (Note: I am a musician, but by no means a Beethoven scholar.) I also agree with the "life and work" section split. Particularly if it meant an expansion of the discussion of his musical development through the various periods of his output; actually, each period should get its own section.Mindspillage (spill yours?) 15:52, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)