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Untitled[edit]

Surely he should be catgorised as a British TV presenter & writer? He has never been a presenter on Icelandic TV and does not write books in Icelandic. I was in Iceland in the 1990's when he also happened to be visiting, and saw him on an Icelandic TV new program being interviewed by an Icelandic presenter in English which was subtitled. --JBellis 21:12, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

True, same with Roald Dahl. In spite of his name and his Norwegian parents, he grew up in England, so England is his homeland, even though he spent a lot of holidays in Norway and seemed to have a soft spot for it. --128.39.12.150 17:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is no evidence that he has ever become a naturalised British citizen JAJ 00:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He grew up in Scotland and lived there for around 70 years. I don't think you need passport evidence to call him British.

His knighthood was an honorary one so he never did take British nationality.

Indeed. Despite leaving Iceland at the age of one, he was not naturalised as a United Kingdom national. Sam Blacketer 22:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This may have something to do with the fact that prior to 1 July 2003, Icelandic nationality law revoked the citizenship of most Icelanders who acquired another one. JAJ 03:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

His knighthood was indeed honorary, which is why he could not be called "Sir Magnus Magnusson". However, he was entitled to "KBE" after his name, without the qualifier "honorary". I've made the correction. JackofOz 23:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Could someone clarify to me please, how is his name spelt is it Magnus Magnusson or Magnús Magnússon. AxG ^(talk) _{(sign here)} 22:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Magnús Magnússon is the proper Icelandic name he was given but he dropped the diacritics in the UK and that's how he will always be known there I believe. --Bjarki 05:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then, of course, that's what should be in the Wikipedia article name. Gene Nygaard (talk) 16:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Magnús Magnússon would be fine as a title, but it was wrong to move this page to Magnús Magnússon (television presenter). If there is likely to be confusion, then a proper disambiguation page should be created. Deb 21:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Father's name[edit]

Surely his father's name was Sigursteinn - http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigursteinn - or are Icelandic names cited in the accusative?

You are right, it should be Sigursteinn which is the nominative case. --Bjarki 12:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Translation career[edit]

He was a noted Icelandic translator, and did many of the sagas, not to mention modern literature such as the novels of Halldor Laxness There should be more mention of this.

Also a notable writer upon Scottish subject matter.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:52, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diacritics[edit]

The diacritical marks are entirely inappropriate. He never used them in any of his many published works, and the article even implies that they are appropriate for his children. They need to go (and they need to go from the title too). Sticks out like a sore thumb that his daughter Sally is exempt from the treatment, as she has a Wiki article and it's a BLP. Magnus and his other children get it because he's dead and they don't have articles here. It's not Wikipedia's task to impose some kind of authenticity on people.KD Tries Again (talk) 06:58, 13 December 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move Dpmuk (talk) 12:09, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Magnús Magnússon → Magnus Magnusson — Having removed the diacritical marks from his name in the article, the title is no longer appropriate. I tried moving it myself, but because there is already a Magnus Magnusson page - which simply redirects here - it's not allowing me. KD Tries Again (talk) 17:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again[reply]

Support Move WP:Article Titles, under Common Names states "Common usage in reliable sources is preferred to technically correct but rarer forms". The common form of this man's name does not have diacriticals. -- Doug (talk) 20:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It might have made more sense when you changed the name in the article, to have left a reference to the fact that he was born Magnús Magnússon. The change of article title would then hardly be controversial. Skinsmoke (talk) 15:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See Early Life section which deals with that point (although it lacks a citation). It's plausible that he was not born Magnús Magnússon but would have been given a patronymic. However we don't know that his parents put one name on his birth certificate and then started using a different one, and there's no basis for guessing that they did.KD Tries Again (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again[reply]

Support as the usage of Penguin Books; he is not spelled with accents in English. As the article points out, Magnús Magnússon would not be his name in Icelandic either; that form is our invention. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Name[edit]

The following from ODNB confirms the obvious:

With this nationality and parentage he should have been called Magnús Sigursteinsson, but this was regarded as too difficult for non-Icelanders to pronounce in the family's newly adopted country of Scotland, where they moved when Magnus was nine months old. So, Magnús Magnússon he became, and remained, although he Anglicized the spelling by removing the accents. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He should not be listed under Scottish.[edit]

He never took British, and therefore Scottish, citizenship so he cannot be listed as Scottish. Permanent Residence doesn't make you a citizen of that country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.152.170 (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maknus with a 'k'[edit]

Did he honestly use this foreign pronunciation of Magnus? Varlaam (talk) 18:14, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Host of Mastermind succession box[edit]

I don't think his successor should be John Humphrys -after the BBC TV series stopped in 1997 it was on radio with Peter Snow then then o the Discovery Channel with Clive Anderson before the BBC revived it with Humphrys. Dunarc (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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