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There is both an interesting model & memorial to Jack [John] Cornwell V.C.s ship H.M.S.Chester in Chester Cathedral. Cornwell's bravery is recorded there along with details of her role at Jutland.

merge from John Traverse Cornwell[edit]

I 'merged' a tiny bit of John Traverse Cornwell into this page, as the content of this page seemed superior and the entire text of that page (plus some scanned photos) exists externally on http://www.seacadets.co.uk/vc/cornwell.htm which link I have added to this article. I'm less certain on the issue of the best article title. Anyone care to opine whether it's better with the Traverse in it, or possibly better still as just Jack Cornwell, if that's really how he's best known? Mwanner 15:13, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for redirecting John Travers Cornwell here. The name doesn't particularly matter, as Jack Cornwell also redirects here. -- Arwel 01:50, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Attention tag[edit]

Needs wikified, more Scouting info- esp about the medal.Rlevse 11:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The VC image should be changed as Cornwall's medal has the naval blue ribbon having been awarded before 1918. Albatross2147 09:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cemeteries Confusion[edit]

Having queried this with Commonwealth War Graves Commission online and had reply, I can tell the cemetery in which Cornwell is buried is NOT the City of London Cemetery and Crematorium Manor Park but a separate Manor Park Cemetery (confusingly in same district). The former contains 722 Commonwealth War grave burials not including Cornwell father and son, the latter 419 burials including the two men. I will disconnect the link to the City of London Cemetery Manor Park and amend the cemetery references accordingly.Cloptonson (talk) 18:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Father's Service in France[edit]

I query the statement Eli Cornwell fought in France under Lord Kitchener (sic) as Kitchener was not one of the generals actually commanding on the Western Front. He was at the time home-based Secretary of State for War and only visited the front on occasions. The overall commander-in-chief of the BEF was then Sir John French.Cloptonson (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Place of death?[edit]

Infobox states Cornwell died at Grimsby, article states Southampton - which is correct? I'd have thought it more likely a ship damaged at Jutland would go to Grimsby rather than Southampton. --Bcp67 (talk) 21:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shell splinters[edit]

The "Battle of Jutland" section claims that the gun shields were too short and many of the gun crews suffered severe leg injuries as a result. I'm struggling to find a source for this; Jutland, 1916: Death in the Grey Wastes by Peter Hart, Nigel Steel has several eye witness accounts of the carnage on the deck of HMS Chester but no mention of short gun shields. The Imperial War Museum's page says "...the forecastle received a direct hit as a result of which every member of Cornwell’s gun crew were either killed or wounded"; presumably the explosion was behind the open-backed shield. Can anybody shed any light on this? Alansplodge (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Age of Alice Cornwell at death?[edit]

The current version states that Eli Cornwell's wife Alice "died at the age of 48". This change was introduced in 2007 by @Jackyd101, although at the time the line was "in rooms she was forced to take when her sons memorial fund refused financial aid at the age of 54 48". It is not clear on what basis the age was changed, considering the memorial shows her age at death as 54. Perhaps this is based on some document that more accurately states her date of birth than was available at the time? Or some attempt to document the age at which she was refused financial aid? It requires a reference to clarify. Another matter I'm uncertain on is why his mother is said to be Lily Cornwell; perhaps Lily was later divorced or died, after which Eli married Alice? GreenReaper (talk) 09:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Who was Alice Cromwell?[edit]

the article describes how awfully she was treated when she needed help... But how was she related? Article mentions 2 Alice's. 76.158.183.93 (talk) 08:24, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Cornwell was Jack Cornwell's mother. The article imparts this rather obliquely when it mentions "her son's memorial fund". William Avery (talk) 09:06, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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