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(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction[edit]
Self-nom. Johnleemk | Talk 09:51, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support, and why not?--Crestville 22:28, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support. cool. dab 13:32, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Excellent, as always. Ambi 14:09, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I'd like to see more on the cover versions. More than one sentence paragraphs, you know. I think that, during the famous performance in which Britney Spears stripped down to that flesh-colored bodysuit and sang "Oops!...I Did It Again", she started out by singing her cover of "Satisfaction". I think I'm remembering that correctly, although I guess the music wasn't the foremost thing in my mind. Wasn't that at the MTV Video Music Awards, in 2000, I guess? Add something about that. Everyking 11:41, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I can't find any mention of that at all on Google. This and this are the closest I could get, which isn't much. Johnleemk | Talk 12:04, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Christ in Heaven, I assure you it happened, I distinctly recall it. Well, I may be insane, one can never rule it out. The problem, I imagine, is that you searched for "bodysuit". You ought to know to keep search terms as simple as possible so as to be more inclusive. Search for "Satisfaction", "Oops", "Video Music Awards", "strip"/"stripped", "Britney", that sort of thing together. Everyking 12:13, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I assure you, I did search without the bodysuit keyword (I just linked to te search with bodysuit in it because it yielded more than a few relevant results). And when I did another search... the only thing sounding like the incident you described was this. Considering how hard it's been to find a mention of this incident, I'm beginning to doubt whether the incident's notable enough for the article. That it happened is something confirmed. That it's viewed as noteworthy enough for a mention seems highly dubious, however. Ah, but what's this? Still, I doubt that this is relevant enough for the article. For the Britney Spears article on a sudden image change, maybe. But from what I've seen, few people associate her new image with "Satisfaction"; they associate it with "Oops!...". Johnleemk | Talk 12:39, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Sure it's important, it was big news then. If you're going to mention the song, you might as well mention that performance. Everyking 12:55, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I assure you, I did search without the bodysuit keyword (I just linked to te search with bodysuit in it because it yielded more than a few relevant results). And when I did another search... the only thing sounding like the incident you described was this. Considering how hard it's been to find a mention of this incident, I'm beginning to doubt whether the incident's notable enough for the article. That it happened is something confirmed. That it's viewed as noteworthy enough for a mention seems highly dubious, however. Ah, but what's this? Still, I doubt that this is relevant enough for the article. For the Britney Spears article on a sudden image change, maybe. But from what I've seen, few people associate her new image with "Satisfaction"; they associate it with "Oops!...". Johnleemk | Talk 12:39, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Christ in Heaven, I assure you it happened, I distinctly recall it. Well, I may be insane, one can never rule it out. The problem, I imagine, is that you searched for "bodysuit". You ought to know to keep search terms as simple as possible so as to be more inclusive. Search for "Satisfaction", "Oops", "Video Music Awards", "strip"/"stripped", "Britney", that sort of thing together. Everyking 12:13, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I can't find any mention of that at all on Google. This and this are the closest I could get, which isn't much. Johnleemk | Talk 12:04, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I wasn't asked, but I remember the strip down, and I remember a massive amount of press coverage of the strip, but pretty much no one mentions the song she was doing before the strip. I think the news was her faux nudity, and not the performance of the set-up song. Geogre 14:10, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Weak support: The "Lyrics and melody" section is imprecise, and the balance of description of musical composition and lyrical content is mismatched. One reason the song is one of the greats is that it marries a great hook with a great lyric, and they're equally important. Catchy tunes get #1 hits, but they don't get greats (e.g. "Funky Town"), and intense lyrics get #1 hits, but they don't get greats (e.g. the very "important" songs like "Eve of Destruction"). As many people bought the song for its anger as for its beat (it has always seemed to me that the anger and the desperation of youth were the real greatness, but I'm a lyrics person). Certainly one of the reasons the song keeps getting covered is the lyric, as each artist attempts to recast "satisfaction" itself into her or his own context (certainly a reason Devo's version is one of the greatest covers is the fact that their alteration of the music was to emphasize the altered context of the frustration). The other gripe is with the "Covers" section. It almost seems suicidal to go into any listing of the covers. It's easier to list the rock bands who haven't covered it than the list all who have, and the article is inviting every reader to come along and add in the one he or she remembers. Finally, the writing is a little rapt for me. However, I do support the nomination. Geogre 14:28, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Weak support: I'd love to see the "Lyrics and melody" section stronger, but I can't think what to do, or I'd do it... -- Jmabel | Talk 09:24, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)
- No satisfaction until the lyrics are in the article. How can you write about a song without the lyrics? Are you serious? prometheus1
- ...which would make this article a copyright violation, making this objection patently unactionable. Ambi 12:23, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)