Talk:Abu Muslim

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Safavid heresy[edit]

This phrase was at the end of the article: "The Mahdist heresies entrenched even private Shia beliefs in Iran that would persist until the sixteenth century when the Safavid heresy became fully pronounced.". It is unclear what the author refers to here. The Mahdist belief has been with the Shia before the Savafids, and still exists today, in Iran and elsewhere. It is not clear what was there to be supplanted, nor what s/he refers by Safavid heresy. Therefore, I am taking this section out till further clarification and references are provided. Note: I am not Shia myself. -- KB 01:45, 2004 Sep 19 (UTC)

I'm born a Shia, but I don't understand the sentence either. roozbeh 12:43, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Suggesting new name for this article[edit]

I think this article should be moved to Abu Muslim Khorasani. That his most common name used in literature. Please let me know if you agree or disagree. --Behnam 07:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. I think Abu Muslim Khorasani is more common name.Ariana310 20:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Khurasan vs. Khorasan[edit]

The article uses both terms. I assume they are the same, just using different transliterations. If nobody corrects me, I'm going to change everything to the Khorasan version in the near future. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 17:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

yes, they are the same. --Pejman47 (talk) 18:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, fixed. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Serious source[edit]

I found this while searching for information for another article. It would be great for this one as it primarily focuses on who Abu Muslim was. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:09, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]


== The Name Behzādān Pour Vandād Hormozd ==

Where is this name from? Pour means son so if he is named "son of vandad hormozd" the first part Behzad-AN might be wrong and hence i doubt this name has validity to it, unless Behzadan is the name of his/a clan (the behzadian ,son of vandad hormoz) Most names from that period have this form "Behzad i vandad-hormozdan" . And he was in slave like servitude to the abbasid, so propably had some lineage but this name reeks of psuedo-history attestation. cant find where its first attested (and how did they found out and why does it include pur) Bennanak88 (talk) 11:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"crypto-Zoroastrianism"[edit]

Hello

On the crypto-Zoroastrianism section it mentions a quote from Nizam al-Mulk's book. However, in the book he doesn't actually attribute this to Abu Muslim, instead he says that this was by Sinbad (or Sunpadh):

"When the Rafidis heard mention of the Mahdi, and the Mazdakites the name of Mazdak, a great multitude of Rafidis and Khurrama-dins gathered at Rayy, and Sinbad's affair grew in magnitude until eventually 100,000 people joined him, mounted and on foot. Whenever he was alone with Zoroastrians, he would say, 'According to one of the books of the Sasanians which I have found, the Arab empire is finished. I shall not turn back until I have destroyed the Ka'ba, for this has been [wrongly] substituted for the sun; we shall make the sun our qibla as it was in olden time.' And to the Khurrama-dins he would say, 'Mazdak has become a Shi'ite and his command is that you make common cause with the Shi'a.' By saying the former things to the Zoroastrians and the latter to the extreme Shi'ites and Khurrama-dins, he kept all three groups happy"

I don't see any mention of Abu Muslim in this. Tykanes (talk) 10:02, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained changes[edit]

@FF0010: Hi, please explain your changes here, thanks. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:05, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]