Talk:Hamilton, Ontario

Need guidance to avoid an edit war

I had added fully cited content to the Hospitals section which I had added to this article today. (There was no section discussing hospitals previously.) Some of it was just deleted, with the claim that it was not sourced. There was a citation that I added and the St. Joseph's Healthcare Hamilton article has other citations.

@Vaselineeeeeeee I know you are an experienced editor from other articles we have both contributed to. Could you take a look at this and provide some guidance? This is the content:

   There here is another hospital group in Hamilton, not related to the Health Sciences group, St. Joseph's Healthcare Hamilton, with 777 beds; of these, 600 are located at the Charleton St. Campus. The hospital group also has two other locations (campuses). St. Joseph's serves as the regional kidney transplant centre and also provides acute care, surgical and outpatient services as well as offering services for those suffering from severe mental illness or addiction. ref https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/melissa-farrell-named-new-president-of-st-joseph-s-healthcare-hamilton-895497542.html, Melissa Farrell named new President of St. Joseph's Healthcare Hamilton ref 

Thank you. Peter K Burian (talk) 20:54, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Your thoughts on this Mattximus and HangingCurve? You have both been involved in editing the Hamilton article. Thanks, Peter K Burian (talk) 21:04, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Peter. The source doesn't mention the bed count, etc, I think it's better to leave this part as is, the rest of the details can be found at the main page for the facility. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 21:14, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks, Vaselineeeeeeee. Peter K Burian (talk) 21:17, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

I can have a go at the wording if you like, feel free to revert if you don't like it. Mattximus (talk) 21:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Mattximus. Looks fine. Peter K Burian (talk) 23:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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Hockey Team

The local fight to get a NHL team references 2009; I don't know that these pieces of information are relevant anymore. i suggest revisiting this section if not removing it entirely.

Hamilton's attempt at getting its own NHL team is relevant as to its history. These attempts have been discussed in other venues outside the city (and even outside Canada). ... discospinster _talk 21:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

FA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the featured article criteria I have outlined my concerns below:

• A short lede that needs to be expanded
• Multiple sentences and paragraphs that need citations
• Layout concerns causing MOS:SANDWICH
• A history section with no information post-2001
• Lots of small paragraphs that can be merged or reformatted

Is anyone interested in fixing this up? Pinging discospinster and Maclean25 as they were involved in the article's FAC. Z1720 (talk) 16:13, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nikkimaria, after I posted my notice you made lots of great edits. Are you interested in fixing up this article, or should I nominate this to FAR later this week? Z1720 (talk) 18:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Z1720, I'm interested, but am also trying to work on a few others that have been noticed so can't give any guarantees as to timeline. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:32, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

In that case, I won't FAR this. Please ping me when edits are complete and I'll reassess. Z1720 (talk) 19:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria: is this article at FA standards? If so, can you mark it as such at WP:URFA/2020? If not, are editors still working on this or should we prepare an FAR? Z1720 (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. I would say it's not quite there yet. Did you have concerns other than the ones mentioned above? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I took a quick read through the article, and here are some additional concerns:

• The "The Dundas Valley School of Art" paragraph reads a little promotional.
• "Three school boards administer public education" but the paragraph mentions four school boards.
• "Other city relationships:" What kind of relationship does Hamilton have with Porto Alegre?

Let me know when ready for a more thorough review. Z1720 (talk) 18:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria: are you still working on this, or this is article ready for another review? From a quick skim it looks like this article is much better than it was two years ago, but there are still some sections that are missing citations. Z1720 (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Z1720 - if you have other concerns I'd be interested in hearing them. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Sustainability

I am adding a sustainability section. If anyone wishes to participate or help clean up and streamline other sections there is a discussion at the Canadian Wikipedians noticeboard regarding this project. It is a multi-city effort where we will be doing the same for other cities in Canada. Mkevlar (talk) 10:23, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

We have removed this type of section before as a wish list of policies....that said info on current stats would be ok.--Moxy- 21:36, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

In the past, this section would have been speculation but since 2016 sustainability has gained traction across North American cities and can now be considered noteworthy. Mkevlar (talk) 2:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Sustainability is not a section expected at community articles according to WP:CCSG. If you want to start doing this across Canadian communities, I suggest you start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canadian communities/Structure guideline and place a notice of said discussion here, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canadian communities, and at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board to catch a wider audience. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 07:57, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Twin Cities - Sulmona, Italy?

In looking through some other pages, I noticed that the commune of Sulmona, Italy, is listed as a twin city with Hamilton (here and here), however, is not listed as a sister city on this page. I can't seem to find any citations that would support this, however it is curious that the two other pages would include Sulmona. I am inexperienced in Wikipedia editing and unsure of how to proceed with this, so I am just leaving this message here in case someone more knowledgeable would care to do some digging/remedy this. Best, Clairvoyantdotcom (talk) 05:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)