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On 9 February 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Organochloride to Organochlorine compound. The result of the discussion was moved.

SUGGESTED EDIT: Dioxin[edit]

All references to dioxin as an insecticide should be removed. Dioxin is a very toxic byproduct of several natural (e.g. forest fires) and industrial (e.g. papermaking and waste incineration) processes. Except for rare uses as a poison there are no productive uses of dioxins (dioxin is actually a catch-all term for a family of related compounds). It has never been used as an insecticide (although it sometimes is a production contaminate of herbicides (e.g. agent orange) and insectisides. I believe it once contaminated household Lysol spray. Except perhaps in the cases of limited production for research dioxin has never been intentionally produced - certainly not commercially.

Reference to dioxin as the most toxic and bio-accumulative of organocholrines might be warranted.

Iggy river 06:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could move to organochlorine[edit]

This page should apparently be moved to organochlorine. Google Scholar has 20 times more hits (8,850) for organochlorines than for organochlorides (412). Edu pages have 100 times more hits (23,800/226). This is also not a UK/US difference because UK URLs also have 70 times more hits (12,100/173) for organochlorines.

Wikipedia also has the following terms on various pages that are apparently synonyms and all much less common and should probably be changed or at least linked to organochlorines:

organic chlorides
organic chlorine compounds
chlorinated organic compounds

--Espoo 19:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of organochlorides - i'm pretty sure the IUPAC term is chloroalkane. I think it should be moved back. 139.80.123.40 23:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Organochlorine vs. organochloride[edit]

"Organochlorine" produces many more Google hits than "organochloride." Why is this and should the article title be changed to reflect this? Badagnani 17:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

id say change the page to a joint title...with organochlorines listed first...then at some future date it can change fully the opposite to what it is now...as the organochlorine page...a redirect from organochlorides...and with the first sentence saying "sometimes called organochlorides"...Benjiwolf 12:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Organochlorine is not a typical way of referring to these compounds (except when stating 'organochlorine compounds')

Organochloride IS a category of organic compounds containing chlorine as the major descriptive functionality, and does NOT require one to refer to as 'organochloride compounds'; they are 'organochlorides' OR 'organochlorine compounds'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.8.142 (talk) 20:46, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Organobromide[edit]

The article Organobromide should also be created.--Stone 16:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dichloromethane in Marine Algae[edit]

I think the synthesis of that in Marine Algae is fiction. It was likely man-made in algae bred under alkaline conditions or simply absorbed from an industrial source. Brewhaha@edmc.net 22:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. There is nothing fictional about it. The evidence is originally reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal and repeated in the review article that is cited in the references section. There is no reason to doubt it. --Ed (Edgar181) 01:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Former requested move for Organochlorine compound[edit]

Per discussion here (with all of the other chemistry articles listed) it appears there would be a strong favor to rename the page organochlorine compound (at least temporarily.) Does the consensus agree?-Shootbamboo (talk) 10:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After viewing the google hit data, Organochlorine seems much more appropriate. And I am going to redo the request. (Also see talk page above). -Shootbamboo (talk) 20:52, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

To move page to Organochlorine from Organochloride. -Shootbamboo (talk) 20:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment your requested move at Organofluorine contains "compound" 76.66.195.63 (talk) 06:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Organochlorine should be 'organochlorine compound' or 'organochlorides' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.8.142 (talk) 21:04, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Biosynthesis - what enzymes[edit]

Until we have Carbon-chlorine bond, is this where we should have details (eg substrates and enzymes) of how bacteria, fungi and insects create covalent C-Cl bonds ? chloromethane mentions one enzyme but there may be others. - Rod57 (talk) 14:12, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Does any organochloride actually occur naturally in humans?[edit]

I have not been able to find any specific instance of any organochloride (or chlorocarbon, etc.) when searching broadly online. This article claims they occur in humans and cites references [2]^[1] and [3]^[2]. I cannot access the full texts, but the bibliography of review [2]^[1] has no title containing "human". As for [3]^[2], it specifically attributes (in the Abstract) an organobromide to humans. Can someone with access to these articles verify that some organochloride occurs naturally in humans, naming a specific instance for benefit of those without full access to the scholarly publications? (Sorry I have referred so awkwardly to the citations. The numbering [2] and [3] may have changed...) Saegeas (talk) 01:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Claudia Wagner, Mustafa El Omari, Gabriele M. König (2009). "Biohalogenation: Nature's Way to Synthesize Halogenated Metabolites". J. Nat. Prod. 72: 540–553. doi:10.1021/np800651m.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
^ ^a ^b Gordon W. Gribble (1999). "The diversity of naturally occurring organobromine compounds". Chemical Society Reviews. 28 (5): 335–346. doi:10.1039/a900201d.

Requested move 9 February 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Colonestarrice (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Organochloride → Organochlorine compound – The title is outdated and not helpful. Very few reader will search for "Organochloride" when searching for information about chlorinated organic compounds. JimRenge (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support to be consistent with Organobromine compound and Organoiodine compound. (Organofluorine compound redirects to Organofluorine chemistry, a broader topic.) Mdewman6 (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wiki Education assignment: Toxicology[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 10 August 2022 and 8 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Gabbydh47 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by ToxProfessor36 (talk) 14:10, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[Wagner-1] Claudia Wagner, Mustafa El Omari, Gabriele M. König (2009). "Biohalogenation: Nature's Way to Synthesize Halogenated Metabolites". J. Nat. Prod. 72: 540–553. doi:10.1021/np800651m.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

[Gribble99-2] Gordon W. Gribble (1999). "The diversity of naturally occurring organobromine compounds". Chemical Society Reviews. 28 (5): 335–346. doi:10.1039/a900201d.

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