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Reference[edit]

This was a reference from the stub of this article.

~~\Bird/~~ 05:50, February 28, 2004 (UTC)

Anthoney-94[edit]

"A discussion of differences in the use of this term is presented in Anthoney-94" - what does this mean? It doesn't make any sense in context, not unless Anthoney-94 is metioned in the references which is not the case. / Habj 01:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. I couldn't find an Anthoney 94 on pubmed, so I did a Google search for "Anthoney 1994" and came up with the following reference which I'm pretty sure is the Anthoney-94 that the author of that statement intended. Neuroanatomy and the Neurologic Exam: A Thesaurus of Synonyms, Similar-Sounding Non-Synonyms, and Terms of Variable Meaning by Terence Anthoney. I'll go ahead and add it to the list of References. —Brim 09:07, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It turns on that content was copied verbatim from BrainInfo in this edit. I have removed the paragraph, but added a link to the BrainInfo page. --Arcadian 19:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reptilian Brain[edit]

The brain stem is often referred to as the Reptilian Brain, right? http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilianbrain.html Mathiastck 14:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

The Gray's anatomy image seems to show more than just the Brain stem which is confusing - it has the hippocampus, external capsule and caudate nucleus. Is there another Gray's anatomy picture that just has the brain stem? 194.83.140.31 10:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This picture was in the section regarding the Trochlear Nerve: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Gray719.png I think it should be included in the main page on the brainstem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.132.171 (talk) 13:34, April 4, 2007 (UTC)

I have updated the image to Gray719.png. --Arcadian 14:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page name, Brain_stem or Brainstem?[edit]

In the body, the one-word brainstem appears to be used more than "brain stem", including for example the figure caption. A quick comparison on Google also suggests more hits for brainstem than "brain stem", so I wonder if the page name should be changed, and brain_stem redirected to brainstem rather than the reverse, as present? Ged.R 14:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say that this page is in SERIOUS NEED of adding of information. I plan to come back after my exam when I have some time and add on, but if anyone else can also help, that would be awesome. Kitra101 22:18, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with the name change: "Brainstem" appears as a word inits own right in the Oxford English (sorry US friends) Dictionary. Is the term used in Gray's Anatomy and many other reference sources

Aside: I also agree about the time pressure of exams on medical students, maybe after we qualify, we can come back and improve on this. Dave Morgan 14:00 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I did a Google check myself, and using +brainstem and +"brain stem" produced nearly identical numbers. So, I'm going to say either way is correct, but make "brain stem" the standard for this article since that's the article's current title. If anyone disagrees, feel free to fix it, but this mixed usage has gone on for too long. -- HiEv 16:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think brainstem is the proper term. You checked on Google, but lots of the sites tend to be laymen's sites so I think pubmed would be a better comparison and brainstem wins by 4 to 1 there. Further, many of the results for Brain stem are in triple compound words like brain stem cells. I've not seen a book that uses brain stem, though a minority of research papers and university sites do use it. I don't think its wrong per se but when more scientists prefer one of the terms then i think it should be changed. 83.146.14.209 (talk) 03:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your probably right, but since brainstem redirects to this article, it's hard for me to get very excited about the issue. Looie496 (talk) 17:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

continuing[edit]

I checked PubMed again and queried specifically for "brain stem" vs. "brainstem" in title and abstract, only in top journals. Query used: "brainstem"[Title/Abstract]("CA: a cancer journal for clinicians"[Jour] OR "The New England journal of medicine"[Jour] OR "Science (New York, N.Y.)"[Jour] OR "Cell"[Jour] OR "Nature immunology"[Jour] OR "Nature"[Jour] OR "Lancet"[Jour] OR "JAMA : the journal of the American Medical Association"[Jour] OR "Nature cell biology"[Jour] OR "Immunity"[Jour] OR "Cell metabolism"[Jour] OR "The Journal of clinical investigation"[Jour] OR "Nature neuroscience"[Jour] OR "Neuron"[Jour] OR "Stem cells"[Jour] OR "Cancer cell"[Jour] OR "Cell metabolism"[Jour] OR "Nature medicine"[Jour] OR "Genes & development"[Jour] OR "Journal of Clinical Oncology"[Jour] OR "Circulation"[Jour] OR "Gastroenterology"[Jour] OR "Molecular cell"[Jour] OR "Cell host & microbe"[Jour] OR "Current biology : CB"[Jour] OR "PLoS biology"[Jour] OR "Trends in neurosciences"[Jour] OR "Annual review of medicine"[Jour] OR "Annual review of physiology"[Jour] OR "Annual review of biochemistry"[Jour] OR "Annual review of microbiology"[Jour] OR "Annual review of genetics"[Jour] OR "Annual review of pharmacology and toxicology"[Jour] OR "Annual review of immunology"[Jour] OR "Annual review of public health"[Jour] OR "Annual review of neuroscience"[Jour] OR "Annual review of nutrition"[Jour] OR "Annual review of biophysics and biomolecular structure"[Jour] OR "Annual review of cell and developmental biology"[Jour] OR "Annual review of biophysics and bioengineering"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Drug discovery"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Genetics"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Molecular cell biology"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Neuroscience"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Cancer"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Immunology"[Jour] OR "Nature reviews. Microbiology"[Jour] OR "Blood"[Jour]) AND (("2000/1/1"[PDat]:"3000"[PDat])) RESULT: 'brain stem' was used 32 times including 5 review articles while 'brainstem' was used 144 times, including 32 review articles. In addition, when I checked the review articles in either Annual Reviews ___ or Nature Reviews ___, I saw a clear preponderance of the term 'brainstem' over 'brain stem.' Furthermore, even in articles that used 'brain stem' in the abstract and title, they used 'brainstem' more often in the main article.

On a separate note, I also found the term 'brainstem' used in Columbia med school lectures taught by Rafael Yuste (an HHMI investigator/neuroscientist) and Netter's books.

However, I DID find the term 'brain stem' used exclusively in UCSD's basic neurology course (which I am taking).

In conclusion, I believe brainstem is the correct term... can someone please change the title of the page to brainstem? Seunghwane (talk)

Okay, first, please don't use lines that look like "======..." as separators, the software interprets them as section titles and gets completely borked. Second, I'm fine with changing the title, and I doubt that anybody will have objections, but it's a pain in the butt to do. Because brainstem is a redirect with a complex history, it can only be done by an admin, and needs to be requested at WP:RPM. If you want to go through that process, I'll support you. I don't really care enough to do it myself, honestly. Looie496 (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Midbrain before Pon[edit]

I exchange the order of the part of the brain stem. I think it is more logical to put the midbrain before the pons because it is the normal order if we start at the top of the brainstem.

Excuse my english, i'm a french canadian —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Medcin (talk • contribs) 01:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Layman's Information[edit]

Just a suggestion from someone browsing through - while I'm sure this is very useful to the professionally-inclined, the page contains very little that's of use to the layman without much knowledge of anatomy. It's pretty highly technical. A description of the general location and function of the brain stem without resorting to medical terminology would be really helpful and informative. Right now, this entry reads like it was copied from a med school textbook - very useful to a few people, but not so much for the general population --Auric04 (talk) 21:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The intro doesn't even mention what the brain stem does, it merely says where it's located and what it's made up of, which isn't particularly explanatory. The article really needs to be rewritten for the layman. I added a "cleanup-jargon" tag to the article based on this. -- HiEv 16:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted attempt to move page[edit]

Moving pages by copy-and-paste is not permitted because it removes the article history from the article, and produces a violation of the GFDL license. I explained above what you need to do to move the article -- you need to file a request at Wikipedia:Requested page moves. There is no other way to do it. Looie496 (talk) 14:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How many cranial nerves come from the brainstem?[edit]

This seems to be causing some difficulty. I don't know the official answer, but I do know that the olfactory nerve is not one of them, as it comes from the forebrain. I think the optic nerve should also not be included, as it comes from the diencephalon. The others come from the midbrain and hindbrain, so they should count. So it seems to me that the correct number should be 10. Looie496 (talk) 15:45, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are absolutely right, and I even found a source. Lova Falk talk 16:59, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Human brainstem[edit]

Thanks for your edits to this project, Iztwoz. As you know we recently had an RfC on this matter with no consensus. There is a section in WP:MEDMOS#Anatomy that facilitates the coverage of animal anatomy in human anatomy-dominated articles; if we willy-nilly split articles we willy halve the editing and viewship of articles, impacting their future development for no real benefit; we have 4,500 anatomy articles probably 4, 450 about humans and it it would be very effort intensive and counterproductive to move the majority of these articles to "Human x" unless there is enough information on animals to support it. Cheers, --LT910001 (talk) 02:16, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the move - I was not aware of any discussion on this I just referred to this talk page at the time where there was no mention made. I ought to read entries on Project Anatomy more. Had I known I would not have just gone ahead. Without ref to any other guideline the issue is very confusing or not made clear but that must have been a point raised. I"ll go back to read entries. Thanks Iztwoz (talk) 08:57, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

brain stem[edit]

confused, hmm I don't feel like it, I know what I want to say but it comes out completely something else. I dropped fish on the floor and I ask my child to pick up the cheese. I kept repeating the wrong thing and I don't know why I do this. it wasn't the first time either. just wondering what part of the brain controls the words coming out of my mouth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.127.237 (talk) 02:00, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting question, but this isn't the right place to ask it. Try the Science Reference Desk. Looie496 (talk) 02:34, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Broca's area, Wernicke's area and other portions of the temporal and parietal lobe. As said, this is the wrong place to ask.-- CFCF 🍌 (email) 07:39, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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article is anthropocentric[edit]

Seems to be about human brainstems only. There are many other brainstems out there in nature. Pauldemello (talk) 06:05, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Typo[edit]

There is a typo in the "Structure" chapter, under the "Midbrain nuclei" section:

Midbrain nuclei[edit]

The midbrain consists of:

The sentence I undelined is missing a verb (probably "are"?). 37.162.132.219 (talk) 13:40, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedited per this request. -- Ancheta Wis   (talk | contribs) 18:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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