Talk:Fried ice cream

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Origins[edit]

Sources do not always agree on the exact origin, some say it was made in the US at the 1893 World's Fair while others claim it was a Japanese invention. The oldest print reference to anything like the dish is from the 14 April Chicago Daily Tribune that credits a Philadelphia company with making ice cream in a pastry and deep-fried. Other sources credit its invention to the Japanese and a US firm tried to patent it in 1972. Much later on, it appears in many restaurant reviews mostly Asian, then Mexican places Petropetro (talk) 00:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Temp?[edit]

The article says ice cream is usually kept at 5°C. Meanwhile, water freezes at 0°. Considering 5°C is almost the same temp as a normal fridge, I doubt that this is a true temp at which ice cream is kept. Thoughts? DarkSideOfTheSpoon 10:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why shouldn't the generally negative view of this product taken by "guardians of the public health" be part of the article? Even if one regards them as self-appointed, self-righteous do-gooders? In the tobacco article, would it be fair to edit comments about health concerns out? Rlquall 04:06, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Is this American food? I thought it was japanese. Flying Hamster 04:08, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • I've never seen it in Japan. Fen

Fried ice-cream was first seen in Hong Kong about 20 years ago, the 80s'.

The only place i've had it was an American sushi restaurant so go figure. Flying Hamster 04:16, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I've only had it in Mexican restaurants, and that includes both Tex-Mex and authentic Mexican.. <.<

It's a pretty common dessert to find in Mexican restaurants in the US. Pimlottc 22:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I`ve seen it on Japanese food here in Brasil... I`ll ask my girlfriend for the name --Unuser

If it's an "Americanized Mexican dessert" then what's the Mexican parent form, and how do they differ? Indium 03:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


The article says

The first place I ever found fried ice cream was a Chinese restaurant in the U.S., though the fried ice cream I had tonight at the local semi-upscale-ish Mexican restaurant (also in the U.S.) was quite different (the former was in a ball with no extra stuff except for the coating; the latter was sitting in a fancy little, crispy, fried pastry shell that was covered in cinnamon and sugar, with hot fudge and whipped cream on top of the ice cream itself). I did not realize it was Mexican in origin, but it does make sense, as there are a lot of really sweet desserts in Latin American cuisine. -RW 63.21.76.117 02:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've had it too, also a mexican restuarant. As I recall, the coating was made of crushed cornflakes. ProveIt (talk) 01:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fried ice cream is pretty common in the south, and it's eveywhere in florida. I guess it's from all the latino people who migrated there. it's really tasty.

Why was there a "citation needed" for Coconut fried ice cream? That's pretty silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.108.226 (talk) 04:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually they wanted citation for red bean. I think someone doesn't know about an. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Salmonella?[edit]

The article says that

"Even though fried ice cream is coated in raw egg prior to deep frying, the egg remains uncooked due to the low temperature of the ice cream. If the egg is not carefully prepared or stored beforehand, this dish can result in Salmonella food poisoning."

There are several problems with this. First, the egg does not remain uncooked "even though" the ice cream is coated with raw egg, the egg remains uncooked (if it does) even though it is fried. Second, raw egg either contains Salmonella or it does not. The bacteria come from the reproductive tract of the chicken, not from handling or preparation. Therefore, "careful preparation and storage" have nothing to do with preventing Salmonella poisoning. Third, even though the egg remains uncooked (if it does), it may be pasteurized by the frying process. Finally, and summing up, there is no evidence that this food either can or does cause Salmonella poisoning. The reference cited merely links to a broad warning of the dangers of raw egg. 83.78.47.229 (talk) 17:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not Mexican[edit]

This article states 2 origins neither of which are Mexican. [1] There may have been a case of several people inventing the wheel, but I can't find any evidence it originated in South America, and it surely isn't Asian. Since it is a common State Fair food, I think we should loose the Mexican/Asian references. If it's on the menu you'll find it. This article says it was new to Mexico in 2007 [2]76.97.245.5 (talk) 23:28, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox Origins[edit]

Currently the infobox lists "Origin: Thailand", but the article never states that (makes some references to possible Asian origin but none specifically to Thailand). Based on the text of the article it seems that the origin is murky at best, so I would think it would make the most sense to remove the origin parameter from the info box entirely, but if it does stay it should list the multiple possible options as seen in the article 2600:8807:C104:9900:A909:8618:BD24:F05D (talk) 20:41, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]