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Comment[edit]

It have to be Discussed. Wich Name to use for Mtkvari River. By my point of view, As we are talking about Georgia it's Better to use Mtkvari Name.

Hydropower[edit]

I removed the statement claiming that most hydropower is generated in Georgia. I never heard about hydropower at the Kura in Georgia and in the section below only Mingachevir is mentioned, which is located in Azerbaijan. However, feel free to correct me if I am wrong. --Kerres (Talk) 13:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is a link between the people living near the river Kura (Kur) and a tribe kurshi (kuronians-curonians-couronians) in Baltica sea area?[edit]

I had readed about the tribe kurshi - kuronians - curonians see

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The Curonians or Kurs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonians

"The Curonians or Kurs (Curonian: Kursi; German: Kuren; Latvian: Kurši; Lithuanian: Kuršiai; Estonian: Kuralased; Polish: Kurowie) were a people living on the shores of the Baltic sea in what is now western parts of Latvia and Lithuania from the 5th to the 16th centuries. They gave their name to the region of Courland (Kurzeme), and they spoke the Curonian language. Curonian lands were conquered by the Livonian Order in 1266 and they eventually merged with other Baltic tribes participating in the ethnogenesis of Latvians and Lithuanians. Direct descendents of the Curonians include the Kursenieki of the Curonian Spit and the so-called Curonian Kings of Courland."

"The Curonians were known as fierce warriors, excellent sailors and pirates. They were involved in several wars and alliances with Swedish, Danish, and Icelandic Vikings. Grobin was their main center during the Vendel Age. Chapter 46 of Egils Saga describes one Viking expedition by the Vikings Thorolf and Egill Skallagrímsson in Courland. They took part with the Oeselians in attacking Sweden's main city Sigtuna in 1187. Curonians established temporary settlements near Riga and in overseas regions including eastern Sweden and the islands of Gotland and Bornholm.

The Curonians were an especially religious people, worshipping pagan gods and their sacred animal, the horse. Some of the most important writing sources about the Curonians are the Rimbert's Vita Ansgarii, the Chronicle of Henry of Livonia, the Livländische Reimchronik, Egils Saga, and Saxo Grammaticus's Gesta Danorum."

The Curonian Split http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Spit

"The Curonian Spit (Lithuanian: Kuršių nerija, Russian: Куршская коса, German: Kurische Nehrung, Latvian: Kuršu kāpas, Polish: Mierzeja Kurońska) is a 98 km long, thin, curved sand-dune spit that separates the Curonian Lagoon from the Baltic Sea coast located in Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia and southeastern Lithuania."

The Curonian Lagoon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Lagoon

"The Curonian Lagoon (or Bay, Gulf; Russian: Kуршский залив, Lithuanian: Kuršių Marios, Polish: Zalew Kuroński, German: Kurisches Haff) is separated from the Baltic Sea by the Curonian Spit. Its surface area is 1,619 square kilometers (625 square miles).[1] The Neman River supplies about 90% of its inflows; its watershed consists of about 100,450 square kilometers in Lithuania, Belarus, and the Kaliningrad Oblast."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland_colonization

"The Duchy of Courland and Semigallia (Latvian: Kurzemes un Zemgales hercogiste, Polish: Księstwo Kurlandii i Semigalii, German: Kurland), a vassal of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, being small but wealthy took a modest part in European colonialism, in West Africa and the Caribbean."

" Former Courland colonies

   * St. Andrews Island = Courlander Gambia (the later English Fort James) (1651-1660, 1660-1661)
   * New Courland on Tobago (1637, 1642, 1654-1659, 1680-1690)

Courish colonization of the Americas

" From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland_colonization

Courish colonization of the Americas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courish_colonization_of_the_Americas

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The question is about curonians from the Baltic Sea area - had been they connected with this area of a river Kura - Kur?

I am Kurushin - Kurushina (Kurshi --> Kur --- Kurshi -- Kurushin - Kurushini) I had my genetic test, and I had founded the connections with this areas from Baltic sea, Kuronia and Semigalia(now modern Latvia), Lithonia, .... as places where curonians (kuronians) had lived.

I had saw results.... and my personal opinion - some kuronians might be from some another areas, moving to settle down in Baltic area. and it may be and from the area of the river Kur.

I had noticed...

Kur? (Lettish) - Where? (English) - Где? (Russian)

The river Kura ( Kur - on Russian)

Tur (Lettish) -- There (English) --

see http://translate.eu/english/dictionaries/lithuanian/ http://translate.eu/english/dictionaries/Lithuanian_-_russian_dictionary/

Lithuanian: kur? Russian: где? куда?

Lithuanian: tur Russian: где. куда. где угодно. куда угодно. кое-где. где-то. гораздо. намного. до какого места. везде и (по)всюду.)

Latvian: kur? Lithuanian: kur? Russian: Где? English: Where?

Latvian: tur? Lithuanian: tur? Russian: English:

Russian: здесь Lithuanian: čia ( not CIA but as chia ) (but as (cia) if the latin keyboad)

C.I.A.

Kur? - Where? --- on Russian keyboad, if to forget to change from latin keyboad to Russian keyboad, it will be: Цруку?

ЦРУ (Russian) ---- CIA (English)

CIA (English) ---- ЦРУ (Russian)

(if to print on Russian_latin keyboad, on Russian langauge, but as on English keybooad,,, we will see:

When --- Црут Where --- Цруку When? --- Црут? Where? --- Цруку?

Russian (Ц) is English ( С ) Russian (ЦРУ) is English ( СIA )

But

Russian (Црут) --->(Ц(Russian)- C (English))---> Cрут (they "срут" - this as what every person is doing by a human phyziology, and all alive creaturea are doing the some).

- - - I have decided to mention diffrents verisias as some people like to play with words, sharades, for a curiosity. ***

So.

1. The river Kura (Kur) 2. the tribe kurshi - kuronians - curonians 3. The Curonian Split. 4. The Curonian Lagoon. 5. Kurzeme - Courland - The Duchy of Courland - colonization the World (including America, island Tobago) 6. The surname "Kurushin" "Kurushina" "Kurushini" 7. The play of words from translation from lithuanian, latvian, Russian, English, .... a words "kur?" (Where?) words 'tur' (Here) word 'zeme' (land) 8. word 'kur?' (Lithuanian, Lettish) <----> The River Kur - The river Kura 9. word 'tur' ((Lithuanian, Lettish) <----> The river Tur - The river Tura

The river Kura (Kur(a))------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kura_River

The river Tura (Tur(a))---The Tur River ---

Russian: Tur River http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/7415235

The Tur River

"The Tur River ( _hu. Túr) is a tributary of the Tisza River. The sources are located in the Oaş Mountains in Romania. The Tur River starts at the junction of headwaters Gorova River and Turişor. The river then flows through Satu Mare County in Romania. The main town on the Tur river is Turulung,The river then forms the border between Romania and the Ukraine on a reach of 5.2 km, and the border between Romania and Hungary for 1.1 km. The Tur river joins the Tisza river near Szatmárcseke in Hungary" Resource: http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/7415235

The Tur River

Tur River "The Tur River (Hungarian: Túr) is a tributary of the Tisza River. The sources are located in the Oaş Mountains in Romania. The Tur River starts at the junction of headwaters Gorova River and Turişor. The river then flows through Satu Mare County in Romania. The main town on the Tur river is Turulung, The river then forms the border between Romania and the Ukraine on a reach of 5.2 km, and the border between Romania and Hungary for 1.1 km. The Tur river joins the Tisza river near Szatmárcseke in Hungary" Resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tur_River

Tur ---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tur Tur or TUR can stand for:

   * Tagged Ufology Research
   * Arba'ah Turim, a work of Jewish law
   * Tur (bean)
   * Turkish language (ISO 639-2 language code)
   * East Caucasian Tur, a species of goat
   * West Caucasian Tur, a species of goat
   * Trans-urethral resection, a surgical procedure
   * Tur, Egypt
   * Tur, Iran
   * Tur, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, a village in north-central Poland
   * Tur, Łódź Voivodeship, a village in central Poland
   * Tur (military vehicle)
   * Tur (son of Fereydun), son of Fereydun and predecessor of the Turanians
   * Tur River, river in Romania and Hungary
   * Toxics Use Reduction
   * At-Tur, the 52nd sura of the Qur'an
   * At-Tur, a neighbourhood of Jerusalem
   * Test Unit Ready, a SCSI command (in computer science)

The old legend from Latvia

- - I had an old legend in Riga about the time as a a cock (a cock - петух - on Russian, a hen, a chicken - курица on Russian, куры (on Russian): cocks, hens, chikens. they have as a hair style... as especial. Russian words "hohol" for Ukrainians was from the old ukrainian hair style. So, the old lettish legend is about a time as a cock on the high chirch will ask all latvians:

- Are you ready? ... and if a answer was "yes" ... it will a time for a biggest flood, which will cover all Riga and Latvia.

I mention this old legend as there "kur" - "tur" had teh acciation with with old lettish(latvian) legend about The End Of a Life from a biggest flood in this area.

The old legend from Sibir, Russia, from family, connected with Kurushin family.

The old Russian legend from Sibir about the End of a Life on the Earth is:

"It will be time, and every person will afraid to meet another peroson on his own way. *as some people will eat each another* It will be a hungry hard time. and plenty wars. And the last battle for all Mankins on the Earth will be between the river Bia (Biya) and the river Katun in Altai, Sibir, Russia) and nobody will survive alive in this last battle."

This old legend had remind words "kur-tur"... and they coming from as a resource from family connections with "Kurushin" family. and as they may be connected with places as "The Tur river" and "The river Kura" and a tribe curonians (kuronians), (The curonian Split, The Curonian Lagoon), I decided to mention this information, for a future lingovistic and folk search.

It would be intresting to save all family legends from all Kurushin family and people, whom may be connected with curonians, and the river Kura, the Tur river to look if they had similarity. Some curonians as people from Courland might be Americans for centures already.

But if people had moved so many times before in the history of mankids, we may have the some suddenly wish to travel and to move again as an oldest traditional instinct, in the human nature.

There genetic maps of migration, they may will help too. as some people as birds. some birds like to fly and some people like to travel.

Biya River http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biya_River

Biya River "The Biya River (Russian: Бия) is a river in the Altai Republic and Altai Krai in Russia. It forms the Ob River as it joins the Katun River. The Biya River is 301 km long; the area of its drainage basin is 37,000 km². It flows out of the Teletskoye Lake. The river freezes up in the mid-November to early December (some parts of the river freeze over on a year-to-year basis). It breaks up in the early or mid-April. The Biya River is navigable up to the town of Biysk.

The maximum depth of river is 28 feet (8.5 m)." http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B8%D1%8F

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katun_River

The Katun River (Russian: Катунь) is a river in the Altai Republic and the Altai Krai of Russia. It forms the Ob River as it joins the Biya River some 19 km southwest of Biysk. The Katun River is 688 km long, the area of its drainage basin is 60,900 km². It originates in the Katun glaciers on the southern slope of the Belukha Mountain. The river freezes up in the late November - early December and breaks up in the early or mid-April. The Katun River has a few tributaries: Argut River, Chuya River, Koksa River and Sema River. The river is navigable.

I think... all these places and rivers may be connected,

the river Kura (Kur) - the Tura (Tur) river the Biya (Bia) river - and the river Katun

kurshi- and the people whom had lived near the river Kur (Kura) and Tur (Tura) The Curonian Split The Curonian Lagoon

Russian worlds "Ну, и накурочили!" на-кур-очи-л-и (Russian -кур- - [kur])- na-kur-ochi-l-i

This mean, if it were being people whom had lived near ther Kura river... they had lefted plenty traces in the history of mankid and in the geographical names.

Winderrainer (talk) 15:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

questions about the links: The Curonians, Kushi (Baltic Sea), Kurinia+Semilai(modern Latvia), The Curonian Split(Baltic Sea), The Curonian Lagoon(Baltic sea), The rivers Kura, Tur, Bia(Biya), Katun[edit]

I had readed about the tribe kurshi - kuronians - curonians see

=================================================[edit]

The Curonians or Kurs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonians

"The Curonians or Kurs (Curonian: Kursi; German: Kuren; Latvian: Kurši; Lithuanian: Kuršiai; Estonian: Kuralased; Polish: Kurowie) were a people living on the shores of the Baltic sea in what is now western parts of Latvia and Lithuania from the 5th to the 16th centuries. They gave their name to the region of Courland (Kurzeme), and they spoke the Curonian language. Curonian lands were conquered by the Livonian Order in 1266 and they eventually merged with other Baltic tribes participating in the ethnogenesis of Latvians and Lithuanians. Direct descendents of the Curonians include the Kursenieki of the Curonian Spit and the so-called Curonian Kings of Courland."

"The Curonians were known as fierce warriors, excellent sailors and pirates. They were involved in several wars and alliances with Swedish, Danish, and Icelandic Vikings. Grobin was their main center during the Vendel Age. Chapter 46 of Egils Saga describes one Viking expedition by the Vikings Thorolf and Egill Skallagrímsson in Courland. They took part with the Oeselians in attacking Sweden's main city Sigtuna in 1187. Curonians established temporary settlements near Riga and in overseas regions including eastern Sweden and the islands of Gotland and Bornholm.

The Curonians were an especially religious people, worshipping pagan gods and their sacred animal, the horse. Some of the most important writing sources about the Curonians are the Rimbert's Vita Ansgarii, the Chronicle of Henry of Livonia, the Livländische Reimchronik, Egils Saga, and Saxo Grammaticus's Gesta Danorum."

The Curonian Split http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Spit

"The Curonian Spit (Lithuanian: Kuršių nerija, Russian: Куршская коса, German: Kurische Nehrung, Latvian: Kuršu kāpas, Polish: Mierzeja Kurońska) is a 98 km long, thin, curved sand-dune spit that separates the Curonian Lagoon from the Baltic Sea coast located in Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia and southeastern Lithuania."

The Curonian Lagoon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Lagoon

"The Curonian Lagoon (or Bay, Gulf; Russian: Kуршский залив, Lithuanian: Kuršių Marios, Polish: Zalew Kuroński, German: Kurisches Haff) is separated from the Baltic Sea by the Curonian Spit. Its surface area is 1,619 square kilometers (625 square miles).[1] The Neman River supplies about 90% of its inflows; its watershed consists of about 100,450 square kilometers in Lithuania, Belarus, and the Kaliningrad Oblast."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland_colonization

"The Duchy of Courland and Semigallia (Latvian: Kurzemes un Zemgales hercogiste, Polish: Księstwo Kurlandii i Semigalii, German: Kurland), a vassal of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, being small but wealthy took a modest part in European colonialism, in West Africa and the Caribbean."

" Former Courland colonies

   * St. Andrews Island = Courlander Gambia (the later English Fort James) (1651-1660, 1660-1661)
   * New Courland on Tobago (1637, 1642, 1654-1659, 1680-1690)

Courish colonization of the Americas

" From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland_colonization

Courish colonization of the Americas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courish_colonization_of_the_Americas

=======================================================[edit]

The question is about curonians from the Baltic Sea area - had been they connected with this area of a river Kura - Kur?

I am Kurushin - Kurushina (Kurshi --> Kur --- Kurshi -- Kurushin - Kurushini) I had my genetic test, and I had founded the connections with this areas from Baltic sea, Kuronia and Semigalia(now modern Latvia), Lithonia, .... as places where curonians (kuronians) had lived.

I had saw results.... and my personal opinion - some kuronians might be from some another areas, moving to settle down in Baltic area. and it may be and from the area of the river Kur.

I had noticed...

Kur? (Lettish) - Where? (English) - Где? (Russian)

The river Kura ( Kur - on Russian)

Tur (Lettish) -- There (English) --

see http://translate.eu/english/dictionaries/lithuanian/ http://translate.eu/english/dictionaries/Lithuanian_-_russian_dictionary/

Lithuanian: kur? Russian: где? куда?

Lithuanian: tur Russian: где. куда. где угодно. куда угодно. кое-где. где-то. гораздо. намного. до какого места. везде и (по)всюду.)

Latvian: kur? Lithuanian: kur? Russian: Где? English: Where?

Latvian: tur? Lithuanian: tur? Russian: English:

Russian: здесь Lithuanian: čia ( not CIA but as chia ) (but as (cia) if the latin keyboad)

C.I.A.

Kur? - Where? --- on Russian keyboad, if to forget to change from latin keyboad to Russian keyboad, it will be: Цруку?

ЦРУ (Russian) ---- CIA (English)

CIA (English) ---- ЦРУ (Russian)

(if to print on Russian_latin keyboad, on Russian langauge, but as on English keybooad,,, we will see:

When --- Црут Where --- Цруку When? --- Црут? Where? --- Цруку?

Russian (Ц) is English ( С ) Russian (ЦРУ) is English ( СIA )

But

Russian (Црут) --->(Ц(Russian)- C (English))---> Cрут (they "срут" - this as what every person is doing by a human phyziology, and all alive creaturea are doing the some).

- - - I have decided to mention diffrents verisias as some people like to play with words, sharades, for a curiosity. ***

So.

1. The river Kura (Kur) 2. the tribe kurshi - kuronians - curonians 3. The Curonian Split. 4. The Curonian Lagoon. 5. Kurzeme - Courland - The Duchy of Courland - colonization the World (including America, island Tobago) 6. The surname "Kurushin" "Kurushina" "Kurushini" 7. The play of words from translation from lithuanian, latvian, Russian, English, .... a words "kur?" (Where?) words 'tur' (Here) word 'zeme' (land) 8. word 'kur?' (Lithuanian, Lettish) <----> The River Kur - The river Kura 9. word 'tur' ((Lithuanian, Lettish) <----> The river Tur - The river Tura

The river Kura (Kur(a))------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kura_River

The river Tura (Tur(a))---The Tur River ---

Russian: Tur River http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/7415235

The Tur River

"The Tur River ( _hu. Túr) is a tributary of the Tisza River. The sources are located in the Oaş Mountains in Romania. The Tur River starts at the junction of headwaters Gorova River and Turişor. The river then flows through Satu Mare County in Romania. The main town on the Tur river is Turulung,The river then forms the border between Romania and the Ukraine on a reach of 5.2 km, and the border between Romania and Hungary for 1.1 km. The Tur river joins the Tisza river near Szatmárcseke in Hungary" Resource: http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/7415235

The Tur River

Tur River "The Tur River (Hungarian: Túr) is a tributary of the Tisza River. The sources are located in the Oaş Mountains in Romania. The Tur River starts at the junction of headwaters Gorova River and Turişor. The river then flows through Satu Mare County in Romania. The main town on the Tur river is Turulung, The river then forms the border between Romania and the Ukraine on a reach of 5.2 km, and the border between Romania and Hungary for 1.1 km. The Tur river joins the Tisza river near Szatmárcseke in Hungary" Resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tur_River

Tur ---

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tur Tur or TUR can stand for:

   * Tagged Ufology Research
   * Arba'ah Turim, a work of Jewish law
   * Tur (bean)
   * Turkish language (ISO 639-2 language code)
   * East Caucasian Tur, a species of goat
   * West Caucasian Tur, a species of goat
   * Trans-urethral resection, a surgical procedure
   * Tur, Egypt
   * Tur, Iran
   * Tur, Kuyavian-Pomeranian Voivodeship, a village in north-central Poland
   * Tur, Łódź Voivodeship, a village in central Poland
   * Tur (military vehicle)
   * Tur (son of Fereydun), son of Fereydun and predecessor of the Turanians
   * Tur River, river in Romania and Hungary
   * Toxics Use Reduction
   * At-Tur, the 52nd sura of the Qur'an
   * At-Tur, a neighbourhood of Jerusalem
   * Test Unit Ready, a SCSI command (in computer science)

The old legend from Latvia

- - I had an old legend in Riga about the time as a a cock (a cock - петух - on Russian, a hen, a chicken - курица on Russian, куры (on Russian): cocks, hens, chikens. they have as a hair style... as especial. Russian words "hohol" for Ukrainians was from the old ukrainian hair style. So, the old lettish legend is about a time as a cock on the high chirch will ask all latvians: